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Old 06-21-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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If you spent a few minutes re-teaching it to them? I'd bet most could.

Hey I couldn't diagram a sentence right now. Is that because I'm stupid?

No, its because I learned how to do it 25-30 years ago and NEVER had to do it again once I left High School.

I know your specific point is to somehow highlight how dumb most teachers are, but you'll need a better example as proof...
Teachers spend four years learning how to follow instructions.

Then, that's all they teach.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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Teachers spend four years learning how to follow instructions.

Then, that's all they teach.
Is that your first-hand experience?
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Is that your first-hand experience?
I had a lot of that, yeah.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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I had a lot of that, yeah.
Where did you teach? Where did you get your education to become a teacher?
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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Where did you teach? Where did you get your education to become a teacher?
You misunderstand.

I was the teachee, not the teachor.
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Old 06-21-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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You misunderstand.

I was the teachee, not the teachor.
Priceless!!
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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As some other people have mentioned, there's a disconnect between the idea of making it harder for people to become teachers with what's going on in many states in limiting teacher pay, benefits etc. You cannot compare schooling to become a teacher to a doctor. Sure you may want it as rigorous but a doctor comes out and will make $200K+. A teacher will be making $50K. Couple that with states taking away negotiating rights, health benefits, retirements, etc, it just doesn't make sense. I understand the sentiment of wanting to make sure great teachers end up in the classroom but you have to be ready to reward the people that make it their calling in life.
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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"The teachers that then go ahead and put it to use in the classroom, generally, have no idea of the true nature of the material they are teaching and merely superficially study the material themselves before passing it on to the unsuspecting populace."

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Old 06-26-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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If you spent a few minutes re-teaching it to them? I'd bet most could.

Hey I couldn't diagram a sentence right now. Is that because I'm stupid?

No, its because I learned how to do it 25-30 years ago and NEVER had to do it again once I left High School.

I know your specific point is to somehow highlight how dumb most teachers are, but you'll need a better example as proof...
Well, shame on you (or your teachers back then) for not "using" (or teaching the use and importance of) the process of diagramming a sentence when "speaking"...diagramming is the way one learns to use proper English for the most part. If you cannot diagram the words/phrases in the sentence then you are not using correct sentence structure. I learned to diagram sentences starting when I was in the 4th grade. I have since tried to use the diagramming as a "test" when making sure my written sentences were correctly structured throughout all my school years right up to present time. After all these years since learning correct English (over 65 years) the correct use of words in phrases, modification, etc., are ingrained. For instance, when I read any sentence that ends with a preposition I cringe. When I see any sentence using "if it was" I cringe! Once one learns correct English it becomes automatic habit.

There was once a time when TV actually used correct English...no more...I am forever correcting the language used by TV personnel and am constantly shocked by the ignorance shown. For instance, the word "data" is pronounced with the first "a" as long...not short! One of the easiest rules in correctly pronouncing words in the English language is that it takes a double consonant to break the "long" sound of a "vowel" to the short sound. Those exceptions simply have to be learned, but off hand I cannot think of one. Example: later, latter
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Old 06-26-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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"The teachers that then go ahead and put it to use in the classroom, generally, have no idea of the true nature of the material they are teaching and merely superficially study the material themselves before passing it on to the unsuspecting populace."

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I had a sociology teacher like that. She came right out of college with no experience except school. I know, I asked her. She was "teaching" out of a book written by another who had no experience in the field. He had spent his entire life in academia. All theory.

I was working in the slums of Wash, DC at the time and continually challenging her on what she was preaching. She lost the debates s every time. She didn't have a clue about what she was talking about.
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