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Old 06-30-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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The problem with the OP is she is assuming that every state and every district is the same as hers. While all schools are having financial problems, each state and in many states, each district, is dealing with this in different ways. I attend the school board meetings and do feel that my voice is heard.
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Old 06-30-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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That's garbage. Sorry but that's the best description. Parents are exactly the ones who have the power because ultimately they're citizens first and parents second. And it's truly citizens which create the country/government/education system that exists. If the legislature is corrupt and criminal,it's because the citizens tolerate such things. If a school district is corrupt and inefficient its because the citizens tolerate such things. And of course that's going to be found in every aspect of our lives,including the classroom. What we tolerate and accept is a reflection of us. If that's harsh too bad, it's way past time for a reality check.

Furthermore, what good has it done to be compliant towards any percentage of the population, giving them only what they want to hear. The entire system that we live in is in crisis, and being diplomatic hasn't seemed to have done much of anything. It seems not a problem to trash teachers or unions,but if a teacher tells it the way it is, we get someone like you saying that its a rant. Well maybe its about time people begin to rant about a corrupt system....
Hmmm...okay. By that theory, here's a challenge for you: go fix things. Now. Not all of them, just, say...oh, your state. It's a holiday weekend coming up, so I'll give you until next Friday.
After all, you're a citizen-- you have the power to do it.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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The problem with the OP is she is assuming that every state and every district is the same as hers. While all schools are having financial problems, each state and in many states, each district, is dealing with this in different ways. I attend the school board meetings and do feel that my voice is heard.
She also apparently can't comprehend that two of those variances include relative size and affluence. Example: Concord (MA) Public Schools, with one high school, one middle, and three elementaries in a very affluent part of the country, is going to face completely different challenges than the Dade County School System (fourth largest in the United States, with 392 schools-- 328 of which are Title One funded-- and 345,000 students speaking 56 different languages).
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Rural
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I know this has been addressed, but you just started a very contentious thread complete with numerous exclamation points entitled "Blame the Parents!!!" Now you want their support?
Ummm if you read I do not blame the parents however ...I'm probably not directly talking to parents like you. However if you saw the condition of how some students came to school unfed, dirty, unkept,smelling like urine, cussing (Kindergarten), weapons in school (Kindergarten), ect...maybe you would understand that the world today is in some deep trouble!!!! How can it not be the parents fault!!
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Ummm if you read I do not blame the parents however ...I'm probably not directly talking to parents like you. However if you saw the condition of how some students came to school unfed, dirty, unkept,smelling like urine, cussing (Kindergarten), weapons in school (Kindergarten), ect...maybe you would understand that the world today is in some deep trouble!!!! How can it not be the parents fault!!
I don't know how more clear a thread title "Blame the Parents!!!" can be! The old "you're different, you're not like those other parents", doesn't set well with me.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:32 PM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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I am a parent and a teacher. I feel like if all the parents could get together and do something then we could make a difference in all the cuts.

But here in Idaho at least it seems like the parents feel powerless and dont know what to do.

What could they do...and if they did there would be a lot of them

It is a national phenomena. It is what the people in charge are good at doing--

Saying they support education, parents and teachers, then they systematically attack the ones thgay claim to support until parents, teachers and community are at each other throats and trust is out the window.
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:53 AM
 
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What do you teach?

Parents could vote to have their taxes raised for more money for schools. How do you think that would fly?
Parents could send their kids to private schools.
If money were the issue then we would have spectacular schools since during the boom years the education budget has increased year over year. Thats not the case. So you can't really make the argument that more money is going to be the solution - its not.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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If money were the issue then we would have spectacular schools since during the boom years the education budget has increased year over year. Thats not the case. So you can't really make the argument that more money is going to be the solution - its not.
The problem with money is that things will get worse without the basics in the classroom and over crowded classrooms don't lend themselves to correcting any of the issues we have in education. Unfortunately, just making classes smaller won't solve the issues. We just make them worse when we make classes bigger.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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I am a parent and a teacher. I feel like if all the parents could get together and do something then we could make a difference in all the cuts.

But here in Idaho at least it seems like the parents feel powerless and dont know what to do.

What could they do...and if they did there would be a lot of them
Most parents are also taxpayers.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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What do you teach?

Parents could vote to have their taxes raised for more money for schools. How do you think that would fly?
Parents could send their kids to private schools.
Or, parents can actually pitch in and donate the money needed to offset the cuts.

That is, if education is actually as important to the parents as they claim it to be.
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