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Old 07-04-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I am curious? What states?

Schools can only count something as a mandate if it falls under federal funding (like busing) and G&T (gifted and talented) never did in all the years I taught. It was a local item; that made it paid for entirely by state/local taxes.

State Boards of Education can also set mandates. Examples in MD: TAG classes, Service Learning Hours, we had exit exams before NCLB.
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Old 07-04-2011, 06:18 PM
 
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Pennsylvania mandates a senior project. They don't specify WHAT the students have to do or when they do it, just that it's done by graduation. Here's a recent article that talks about unfunded State mandates in Pennsylvania: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11096/1137269-454.stm
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:13 PM
 
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New Mexico, for one.
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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I am curious? What states?

Schools can only count something as a mandate if it falls under federal funding (like busing) and G&T (gifted and talented) never did in all the years I taught. It was a local item; that made it paid for entirely by state/local taxes.
Gifted is considered part of ESE in Florida. There are other states, too, but I don't remember which. ETA: Apparently if I had read a bit further, New Mexico. <g>
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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State Boards of Education can also set mandates. Examples in MD: TAG classes, Service Learning Hours, we had exit exams before NCLB.
I am not surprised some states here stick the mandates under Special Ed. (Darksideofthemoon linked the gifted in NM to Special Ed.) In NY, I am sure districts have tried that, but I don't know of any which did it. State Boards can set mandates anywhere. They just often "neglect" or "forget" to fund them. Spec. Ed. often will manage to wheedle money out of federal funds.
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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I am not surprised some states here stick the mandates under Special Ed. (Darksideofthemoon linked the gifted in NM to Special Ed.) In NY, I am sure districts have tried that, but I don't know of any which did it. State Boards can set mandates anywhere. They just often "neglect" or "forget" to fund them. Spec. Ed. often will manage to wheedle money out of federal funds.
If you look at "exceptional ed" as just that-- the exception from the norm-- it really does make sense, particularly with children who are multiply exceptional. IEPs can address all parts of a 2E education (as they should), rather than just certain areas of negative asynchronicity.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:54 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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It's not that they CAN'T do it, it's that they WON'T do it.

Everyone claims that education is important to them until it's time to step up.

Each situation is different. In rural states, bussing is a necessity - especially in poorer rural states.

That's a fact of life, and I think it's cruel to lump some parents into "won't do it" catagory, when it's simply a matter of logistics and funding.

I grow tired of hearing about parents who don't care, or won't care, when in fact, there are many who do care, but are working 2 or more jobs to survive (thus giving the impression that they're never around).

Unfortunately, the sad reality is that there are a LOT of children who are raising themselves. Now, having said that, I'm not particularly interested in the lame "If you can't feed 'em don't breed 'em." line either.

Crap happens to everyone.
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Old 07-10-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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Ideally, but I've found that life often doesn't go according to plan. And often the deviations (unplanned babies, divorce, lay-offs) that might not critically wound one family become catastrophic for another who's closer to poverty level.

Exactly, and thank you for saying it. I have a dear friend whose entire life was upended by divorce recently.

She went from a 4 bedroom nearly-new home in a decent subdivision, to a small mobile home in a park.

She's attending college because she has 12 years of relative blue sky on her resume. She stayed home to raise their 2 children.

If it were not for her fortitude in a horrible situation, and the help of family and friends, she would not be on the path she's on.

Chances are, in our area, she would be working minimum wage in some podunk job that required her to be available at all hours of the day and night, with little notice of schedule change.

It's easy to judge when you're sitting on the greener side of the pasture.
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:52 AM
 
Location: 60630
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I would never let my 5 year old walk to school, 5 miles, by himself. Not because of the distance but because of the obvious danger factor comes into play. I mean, walking beside and crossing busy highways, not to mention all the other dangers lurking.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Nevada side of Lake Tahoe
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It's coming out of the parent's tax money so it evens it out
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