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Old 09-01-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Snide post does not deserve reply. Maybe Texas should crack down on the Karolyi's gymnastics "private school".
It wasn't a snide post.

Why does Colorado feel they need to have oversight on homeschooling ?
Is it a proactive move or reactive move based on statistics ?

You're bashing Texas for having nothing and I would just like to understand why.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It wasn't a snide post.

Why does Colorado feel they need to have oversight on homeschooling ?
Is it a proactive move or reactive move based on statistics ?

You're bashing Texas for having nothing and I would just like to understand why.
"Trust but verify". Why wouldn't a state with a compulsory education law not want to verify that students not in the public schools are getting an education?
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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"Trust but verify". Why wouldn't a state with a compulsory education law not want to verify that students not in the public schools are getting an education?
Private schools do not have to provide that to the state.
Charter schools do not have to provide that to the state.

Why is this trust but verify only being mandated on one group ?

Here's what Texas says:
private and charter schools do not take the state tests.

http://www.tea.state.tx.us/alternative-schooling/

http://www.tepsac.org/faqs.cfm
The only requirement placed on private schools in Texas is found in the state?s compulsory attendance law, which says that a child may be exempt from attending public schools if he or she attends a private or parochial school that teaches good citizenship.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Private schools do not have to provide that to the state.
Charter schools do not have to provide that to the state.

Why is this trust but verify only being mandated on one group ?

Here's what Texas says:
private and charter schools do not take the state tests.

Texas Education Agency - Alternative Schooling

Texas Private School Accreditation Commission
The only requirement placed on private schools in Texas is found in the state?s compulsory attendance law, which says that a child may be exempt from attending public schools if he or she attends a private or parochial school that teaches good citizenship.
Charter schools are public schools. Of course they have to keep attendance and other records at least in my state. Can you cite the Colorado law which says they do not have to keep records and evaluate kids?
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There are no notification laws in Connecticut, either. And several states have options that require no notification and no evaluations; Florida is one of them. (When we homeschooled, we used the option that only required us to keep attendance.) Some families who don't trust the public school system to educate their kids might not want them evaluating their kids, either. What would be the point?
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: midwest
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So when will people conclude that tablets and the Internet will change home schooling and the city and possibly the school system will be irrelevant? The question is, "What to load on the tablets?"

How many schools could do this 12 years ago?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ycircuit&hl=en

So why do cities and schools matter now?

psik
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There are no notification laws in Connecticut, either. And several states have options that require no notification and no evaluations; Florida is one of them. (When we homeschooled, we used the option that only required us to keep attendance.) Some families who don't trust the public school system to educate their kids might not want them evaluating their kids, either. What would be the point?
Here's the point, in Colorado: (From the CDE link)

(5) (a) (I) If test results submitted to the appropriate school district pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (f) of subsection (3) of this section show that a child participating in a nonpublic home-based educational program received a composite score on said test which was above the thirteenth percentile, such child shall continue to be exempt from the compulsory school attendance requirement of this article. If the child's composite score on said test is at or below the thirteenth percentile, the school district shall require the parents to place said child in a public or independent or parochial school until the next testing period; except that no action shall be taken until the child is given the opportunity to be retested using an alternate version of the same test or a different nationally standardized achievement test selected by the parent from a list of approved tests supplied by the state board. - See more at: Home School Law | CDE
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Charter schools are public schools. Of course they have to keep attendance and other records at least in my state. Can you cite the Colorado law which says they do not have to keep records and evaluate kids?
I showed you what Texas does which is treat both home schooling and private schooling the same.
Kids not in public school in Texas are not mandated to take the state tests or use the state approved textbooks.


Don't you know if Colorado treats homeschooling on the same level as private schooling ?
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Here's the point, in Colorado: (From the CDE link)

(5) (a) (I) If test results submitted to the appropriate school district pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (f) of subsection (3) of this section show that a child participating in a nonpublic home-based educational program received a composite score on said test which was above the thirteenth percentile, such child shall continue to be exempt from the compulsory school attendance requirement of this article. If the child's composite score on said test is at or below the thirteenth percentile, the school district shall require the parents to place said child in a public or independent or parochial school until the next testing period; except that no action shall be taken until the child is given the opportunity to be retested using an alternate version of the same test or a different nationally standardized achievement test selected by the parent from a list of approved tests supplied by the state board. - See more at: Home School Law | CDE
Interesting. I wonder if the 13% of public school kids who score below the 13th percentile get sent home...
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I showed you what Texas does which is treat both home schooling and private schooling the same.
Kids not in public school in Texas are not mandated to take the state tests or use the state approved textbooks.


Don't you know if Colorado treats homeschooling on the same level as private schooling ?
Charter schools are public schools.
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