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Old 08-23-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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My guess is most of you aren't qualified to teach religion...Actually, I was thinking probably not sex education, either.
You lost me.
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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My guess is most of you aren't qualified to teach religion...Actually, I was thinking probably not sex education, either.
<blank stare>
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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I saw a clip on the news last night of our Governer Perry working the crowd, assuring someone in the crown that Texas teaches both creationism AND evolution and thinks the children ought to decide. He needs to get caught up on what is going on in his state.
Found the clip.

Rick Perry: Evolution A Theory That's Out There (VIDEO)
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment"]E. coli long-term evolution experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]
The article said "The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010."

50K generations and the bacteria is ..... still the same bacteria.

Leeuwenhoek was the first person to describe bacteria in 1674. Since some bacteria divide every 20 minutes I'll let you work out the number of generations to the present. After all those generations not one time has the bacteria mutated into a higher form of life.

the·o·ry Noun/ˈTHēərē/1. A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained: "Darwin's theory of evolution"

Evolution is theory, not fact. IF evolution is a fact where are the in-betweens? Birds and lizards evolved from dinosaurs, yet one is cold blooded and crawls on the ground and the other is warm blooded and flys. Where are the warm blooded lizards or birds with scales? Both species exist and yet every species in the evolutionary chain that had traits combining the two species are extinct, with no traces left they ever existed (that I know of). Its the same story in every case that science stated one species evolved from another, nothing in between the two species that definitely links them.

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Old 08-28-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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The article said "The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010."

50K generations and the bacteria is ..... still the same bacteria.

Leeuwenhoek was the first person to describe bacteria in 1674. Since some bacteria divide every 20 minutes I'll let you work out the number of generations to the present. After all those generations not one time has the bacteria mutated into a higher form of life.

the·o·ry Noun/ˈTHēərē/1. A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained: "Darwin's theory of evolution"

Evolution is theory, not fact. IF evolution is a fact where are the in-betweens? Birds and lizards evolved from dinosaurs, yet one is cold blooded and crawls on the ground and the other is warm blooded and flys. Where are the warm blooded lizards or birds with scales? Both species exist and yet every species in the evolutionary chain that had traits combining the two species are extinct, with no traces left they ever existed (that I know of). Its the same story in every case that science stated one species evolved from another, nothing in between the two species that definitely links them.
It's both. That's like saying that music is only Theory and not fact.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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The article said "The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010."

50K generations and the bacteria is ..... still the same bacteria.

Leeuwenhoek was the first person to describe bacteria in 1674. Since some bacteria divide every 20 minutes I'll let you work out the number of generations to the present. After all those generations not one time has the bacteria mutated into a higher form of life.

the·o·ry Noun/ˈTHēərē/1. A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained: "Darwin's theory of evolution"

Evolution is theory, not fact. IF evolution is a fact where are the in-betweens? Birds and lizards evolved from dinosaurs, yet one is cold blooded and crawls on the ground and the other is warm blooded and flys. Where are the warm blooded lizards or birds with scales? Both species exist and yet every species in the evolutionary chain that had traits combining the two species are extinct, with no traces left they ever existed (that I know of). Its the same story in every case that science stated one species evolved from another, nothing in between the two species that definitely links them.
Evolution is both a theory and a fact. You misunderstand what a scientific theory is as opposed to *theory* in English.

Theories in science are not *guesses.* When something is a theory, it makes predictions about what we will find that are born out in our experiments or in our observations. Theories in science must be able to be falsified so that we can change them over time with any new observations that make them different. There is NO doubt at all that evolution happened. The theory has to do with the *how* did it happen.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 1

As to a transitional form between reptiles and birds, see here:

Freedom and Reason: Intermediate Fossils

Of course when scientists find a few, then Creationists say, but there should be *millions.* Of course, the problem with that is that soft tissue is not preserved, so we cannot find everything that existed. Conditions had to be right for actually laying down the fossils.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:07 PM
 
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Where and when have humans observed this?

I would think that would be the biggest news ever that a new species has evolved from a different species.
The list of speciation is ling and varied. To keep it simple since I am on my phone, we will stick with nylon eating bacteria and the Hawaiian rock wallaby.
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Old 08-28-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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Its more a politcal debate amoung those who do not want any mention of religion verus those who say its fine to discuss. It actaully will be a continuing matter just as abrotion will be on going.Two of the never ending battles we will never see ending really.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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My guess is most of you aren't qualified to teach religion...Actually, I was thinking probably not sex education, either.
A bunch of faithless virgins, you reckon?
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Its more a politcal debate amoung those who do not want any mention of religion verus those who say its fine to discuss. It actaully will be a continuing matter just as abrotion will be on going.Two of the never ending battles we will never see ending really.
Why would religion be part of a science class? Let's have a discussion of Music Theory in woodshop class. Texas figured it out.
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