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Old 10-05-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Seems to be the war cry of the Fall Quarter. Have you all heard students say this before?
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Who won the American Revolution?
Who was the 1st President?
List a common name for each side in the Civil War.
Which American wrote the Declaration of Independence?
List two reasons for the Civil War.

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Old 10-05-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Since my daughter started school we have moved 5 time and I have heard her say, "that isn't the way they taught me in Utah,Nm,Oregon" She always has an adjustment period when switching schools. I wish each state would adopt the same way of teaching things, that way it would be much easier for incoming students from other states.

to answer your question though, I have heard her say, "I was already taught that" For example, we moved from Oregon to Arizona, here in Arizona they are doing multiplication facts and she was already taught them in Oregon. I just tell her that this way she already knows it so it should be easy for her.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Since my daughter started school we have moved 5 time and I have heard her say, "that isn't the way they taught me in Utah,Nm,Oregon" She always has an adjustment period when switching schools. I wish each state would adopt the same way of teaching things, that way it would be much easier for incoming students from other states.

to answer your question though, I have heard her say, "I was already taught that" For example, we moved from Oregon to Arizona, here in Arizona they are doing multiplication facts and she was already taught them in Oregon. I just tell her that this way she already knows it so it should be easy for her.
Might not want to take that so lightly.

Our kid did multiplication in 2nd Grade.

And again in 3rd.

Now again in 4th. The kid is bored to tears.

We are looking for ANY Self-Paced options.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Might not want to take that so lightly.

Our kid did multiplication in 2nd Grade.

And again in 3rd.

Now again in 4th. The kid is bored to tears.

We are looking for ANY Self-Paced options.
Take what so lightly? That she is being taught things she already knows? If that is the case, I don't. We do quite a bit of things at home also that stimulate her brain. Unfortunatly this seems to be how the education system is in this country so I try and find more stimulating educational things for her to learn outside of school. She is in 4th grade and they are doing 5 minute times multiplication tests. She was doing 2 minute times tests and was up to her 12x's by the middle of the year. Unfortunatley every state is different and she just has to deal with it during her 1 hour of math.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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Seems to be the war cry of the Fall Quarter. Have you all heard students say this before?
Every.
Single.
Year.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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Take what so lightly? That she is being taught things she already knows? If that is the case, I don't. We do quite a bit of things at home also that stimulate her brain. Unfortunatly this seems to be how the education system is in this country so I try and find more stimulating educational things for her to learn outside of school. She is in 4th grade and they are doing 5 minute times multiplication tests. She was doing 2 minute times tests and was up to her 12x's by the middle of the year. Unfortunatley every state is different and she just has to deal with it during her 1 hour of math.

Try all perfect squares from 1-20 in 45 seconds.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Might not want to take that so lightly.

Our kid did multiplication in 2nd Grade.

And again in 3rd.

Now again in 4th. The kid is bored to tears.

We are looking for ANY Self-Paced options.
THAT is the American way. We "SPIRAL" back to subjects year after year to make sure everyone gets it. Don't worry about your kid. Soon he/she will figure out that no one actually expects him/her to get it the first time and that learning it the first time just leads to boredom....

We really need to stop doing this. We're sending the message that no one expects students to learn it the first time and boring any student who does get it the first time to tears. It's time for proficiency tests. Kids who are proficient move on. Those who aren't get to "spiral".
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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THAT is the American way. We "SPIRAL" back to subjects year after year to make sure everyone gets it. Don't worry about your kid. Soon he/she will figure out that no one actually expects him/her to get it the first time and that learning it the first time just leads to boredom....

We really need to stop doing this. We're sending the message that no one expects students to learn it the first time and boring any student who does get it the first time to tears. It's time for proficiency tests. Kids who are proficient move on. Those who aren't get to "spiral".
I understand what you are saying but I have to agree with Phillip to a degree. Each state is different and I've seen first hand how my children have been behind in education when it comes to comparison of states. Proficiency tests would be a great idea if they weren't based on the individual state but nationwide. This year my son is teaching his "class" in social studies because this state is covering what he's already learned last year in a previous state.

I see no reason why we all can't be on the same page to start off with and go from there depending on a child's personal level.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I understand what you are saying but I have to agree with Phillip to a degree. Each state is different and I've seen first hand how my children have been behind in education when it comes to comparison of states. Proficiency tests would be a great idea if they weren't based on the individual state but nationwide. This year my son is teaching his "class" in social studies because this state is covering what he's already learned last year in a previous state.

I see no reason why we all can't be on the same page to start off with and go from there depending on a child's personal level.
I'm all for national standardized exit exams that kids have to pass to pass the class or grade. I'm also for getting rid of spiraling in favor of teaching to mastery the first time.
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