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Old 10-18-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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It means that I find it curious that people will cast aspersions on the public school system but fail to acknowledge that it does produce successful, intelligent adults for the most part.
All I said was that I took my kids out of the "nanny state" public schools. That is just a statement and it mean exactly what it means. If you choose to read something else into that statement that is your choice, but I am not going to debate it with you.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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would not agree that the public school system produces successful intelligent adults.

Parents produce successful intelligent adults from the DNA, to the guidance, to the discipline, to waiting up at nights till they come safely home, or go get them if they didn't.

Do think the public school system has an important supporting role though. I couldn't have taught my children organic chemistry, that is for sure.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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I experienced my very first Teacher Home Visit this morning, and I'm failing to see or otherwise understand just exactly what it is my sons school is trying to accomplish, other than being just intrusive.

The Parent/Teacher Home Visit Project, IMHO, is a fail ..

I fail to see how this would "increase student attendance" .. other than putting the fear of the CPS into the hearts and the minds of neglectful/non-neglectful parents ..

Our son has tested slightly above average already .. even before this home visit .. so I fail to see the point of it all when they say that these visits increase student test scores.

Decreased suspension and or expulsion rates? .. Pah-lease .. CPS again comes to mind.

Decreased Vandalism at the school site? .. um .. no connection there either.

Parent Teacher Home Visit Project

Building a good relationship between family and school can't happen when things like this are forced upon the home .. The website claims it's own success in that it might exist in only 11 states .. it also touts the fact that school districts are fairly lazy in how they administer the mandate of informing the parents of the childs progress at school .. it's cheap .. and easy .. for the school district .. but overly intrusive for the family IMO.

I see the potential for success with regard to this program only inasmuch as the parents and children are threatened by the law .. Forced acceptance of a concept under any circumstance is wrong, regardless of how well intended it might be.

Power of home visits and caring stressed to teachers - The Bozeman Daily Chronicle: Education

When I read this report in the Bozeman Chronicle, I can't help but come away with the notion that school attendance increased more as a result of the fear instilled into the parents and the kids by the authorities, than that the teachers actually cared.

Teachers, IMO, are too motivated by the Dept of Education, and it's mandates, to care much at all about anything other than breaking those laws or mandates.

You can't educate anyone .. whether it be kids, or parents, or even teachers, when you fear that the mandate may rear it's ugly head at any moment ..

What are your thoughts? .. Does your school district force the Home Visit concept?
Let's get back to teacher home visits please.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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None of it makes sense until you realize that schools are no longer about education, but rather act as instruments of socialization, molding our children into docile little factory workers, middle level managers and soldiers.

I read that website and it's just a bunch of baloney. It's nothing more than an attempt at surveillance. So it's not enough that teachers are supposed to be educators. Now they need to be spies, too.

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Old 10-18-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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It means that I find it curious that people will cast aspersions on the public school system but fail to acknowledge that it does produce successful, intelligent adults for the most part.
No, it is parents who produce successful, intelligent adults. The schools are simply a vehicle for providing instruction on specific subject matter while the parent does the heavy lifting at home. Show me a parent who is asleep at the switch, and the odds are the kid will not succeed in his or her academic career regardless of how good the school is. Show me a parent who is engaged, and the kid likely will, regardless of what school he or she attends. While the school itself is somewhat important, it's the parenting that matters far, far more.

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Old 08-27-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Texas ain't exactly what I would call liberal. Is that your idea of a liberal state?

You never lived in Austin, where we keep it weird.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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Just a note for posters - this thread is from 2011 so posters other then the one above this one, may no longer be active on this forum.
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