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Old 10-13-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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Given I have ZERO things to hide from anyone, and given this value is more likely to create a sense of isolation in society than one of happiness...it feels overrated to me;
But here, it is a valued right.

I really don't think the issue is that people feel they have anything to hide. It's just that the values of my family may be different from the values that the school wishes to see. I get to choose my values. I get to say if they are the values I teach my kids, NOT the teacher, NOT the principal, NOT the school board. My husband and I are the only ones who get to decide.

Look at what violent disagreements break out on this discussion board over insignificant things. Different things are important to different people and things that are within the realm of the individual family should stay there. They are not to be scrutinized by the government (public schools are government schools).

I have taught public school. I don't like this type of arrangement as a teacher or a parent. The idea of a teacher evaluating a parent based on their home environment just does not sit well with me.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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But here, it is a valued right.

I really don't think the issue is that people feel they have anything to hide. It's just that the values of my family may be different from the values that the school wishes to see. I get to choose my values. I get to say if they are the values I teach my kids, NOT the teacher, NOT the principal, NOT the school board. My husband and I are the only ones who get to decide.

Look at what violent disagreements break out on this discussion board over insignificant things. Different things are important to different people and things that are within the realm of the individual family should stay there. They are not to be scrutinized by the government (public schools are government schools).

I have taught public school. I don't like this type of arrangement as a teacher or a parent. The idea of a teacher evaluating a parent based on their home environment just does not sit well with me.
Then don't participate. It is VOLUNTARY.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:05 AM
 
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Then don't participate. It is VOLUNTARY.
I took my kids out of the "nanny state" pubic school system years ago.

It is not appropriate for the government to be evaluating anyone's home for any reason. Just because someone consents to it, that does not make it right. Someone can consent to something that is wrong, but it is still wrong.
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:35 AM
 
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I took my kids out of the "nanny state" pubic school system years ago.

It is not appropriate for the government to be evaluating anyone's home for any reason. Just because someone consents to it, that does not make it right. Someone can consent to something that is wrong, but it is still wrong.
Ok. But if the purpose of a home visit is NOT to "evaluate" is it ok then?
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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Ok. But if the purpose of a home visit is NOT to "evaluate" is it ok then?
No.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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Ok. But if the purpose of a home visit is NOT to "evaluate" is it ok then?
Whether the purpose is to evaluate or not, the teacher is going to evaluate and judge and form opinions which will probably not be accurate based on one 15 minute visit.

So no, not ok.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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Evaluate, form an opinion, judge, whatever - yes the teacher would come up with some sort of a feeling as does every single person that walks in your home. So what? According to the website Power of home visits and caring stressed to teachers - The Bozeman Daily Chronicle: Education the specific goal is
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The nonprofit Parent/Teacher Home Visit Project trains kindergarten through 12th-grade teachers to make home visits, working in teams of two. The goal, Rose said, is to build trust and open lines of communication.

Teachers talk to parents to identify, she said, "their common hopes and dreams and how they can work together. Decades of research show students do better academically if students' families are engaged."
Just like anything in life, you have to weigh the pro's and cons of something different. I guess if you think it's beneficial then you opt in. If you feel that the teacher is on some sort of evaluating mission, then you opt out. I count several teachers and administrators as friends and to think that they were on some sort of power trip to evaluate families (if they ever agreed to something like this) is pretty laughable. Three teachers live on my street and they raised their kids pretty much the same as we raised ours.
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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Evaluate, form an opinion, judge, whatever - yes the teacher would come up with some sort of a feeling as does every single person that walks in your home. So what? According to the website Power of home visits and caring stressed to teachers - The Bozeman Daily Chronicle: Education the specific goal is Just like anything in life, you have to weigh the pro's and cons of something different. I guess if you think it's beneficial then you opt in. If you feel that the teacher is on some sort of evaluating mission, then you opt out. I count several teachers and administrators as friends and to think that they were on some sort of power trip to evaluate families (if they ever agreed to something like this) is pretty laughable. Three teachers live on my street and they raised their kids pretty much the same as we raised ours.
I guess if you want to give the government the power to evaluate you, go ahead. I think it is dangerous.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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I guess if you want to give the government the power to evaluate you, go ahead. I think it is dangerous.
Oh no! I already have! They played bunco at my house a couple of months ago!
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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I used to teach at a BIA school on the Navajo reservation. The school board mandated that we teachers make a home visit to each child yearly.

I found it very intrusive.

However, I found a way to make it work for me. I brought treats, road the school bus down those long, lonesome, dusty dirt roads with my students, jumping off at each hogan to deliver the treats to the family member, say a quick hi & jump back on the bus again for another washboard bumpy dirt road.

I was able to get a feel for the incredible bus ride my little ones made every day and better understand why many parents opted for putting their children in the dormitory for the week.
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