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Old 11-05-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yes, they did. Now days, the home economics courses have been replaced with Family and Consumer Sciences....consumer being the most important part. How to SHOP not how how make anything, or feed a family, or sew or cook or be a grown up. It's all about SHOPPING, you know.

20yrsinBranson
I don't believe you've taken one of these courses. My kids both took this course; they learned about careers in the "Home Ec" field, like catering, etc. They prepared a meal for a senior citizens group as one of their projects.

 
Old 11-05-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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..... they learned about careers in the "Home Ec" field, like catering, etc.
Really? oh yes. Running a household is just *exactly* like a catering business. I've said that myself a hundred times.



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Old 11-05-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Really? oh yes. Running a household is just *exactly* like a catering business. I've said that myself a hundred times.



20yrsinBranson
I don't understand your point! Maybe the average Jane and Joe can figure out how to run a house on their own, rather than at taxpayer expense.

When my kids were in these classes, the teacher said the class had to be focused on vocation per the school mandate.
 
Old 11-05-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I don't understand your point! Maybe the average Jane and Joe can figure out how to run a house on their own, rather than at taxpayer expense.

When my kids were in these classes, the teacher said the class had to be focused on vocation per the school mandate.

And we have a winner. That class, for careers, is usually the 2nd in the series of 3 (or 4, depends on the school. International cuisine is usually in there somewhere).
 
Old 11-05-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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Here is one example of what's really wrong in education. People who think they know something about education, as the OP does, but do not. Too many people have unfounded ideas about edu. based on their own assumptions and latch on to other pieces of info that promotes their belief. Those ideas are not helpful and definitely not original.
Most people never have to educate a struggling kid. Nor do they want to support schools that have to. They don't ask teachers what they need to educate kids, they ask everyone who's not in a classroom.
 
Old 11-07-2011, 06:43 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I would have hated school even more than I did if I was required to take a class like OP stated.

"Life skills" sure are boring as hell.
 
Old 11-07-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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I don't think they want anyone educated. Call me a skeptic.

1st - Besides life skills, don't you think history would be especially important to learn about now?

-The history of the middle east. Where we are spending trillions of dollars. We have troops in how many middle eastern countries? Its funny how the places that will impact students the most in the future (i.e. going in the army), they don't seem to spend much time on in high school.

-The history, rise of China? Look at all these countries coming up on the world stage...Brazil, south east Asia, India??? Do our students learn anything about those places?

-All the global problems...Greece, the EU, Portugal, Ireland.

What would happen if schools started teaching kids broad world history? They might be more informed in their 20's and 30's. Thus demanding answers. Thus becoming a political block. They'd rather have uninformed people who don't know whats going on.

There are too many problems in the world to teach real history.

I think this is why schools always drag their feet on "life skills". It would give too much power and information to students. They'd rather have them weak and easily swayed. If every student had great life skills (and hopefully critical thinking)....who would sign up for all the $100,000 degrees and for profit colleges??
 
Old 11-07-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Even though we in English do have a Life Skills Writing Portfolio (which I think I mentioned before here or somewhere) for our junior regular students, I just wonder if this conversation would even be thought of in Finland, Sweden... Germany, Korea, Japan, China....and on and on and on.....

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Old 11-07-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I'll go along with you on this, if you will add one additional unit: Understanding the media. How the news machine works, how advertising works, how the entertainment industry works, how to recognize what they are all doing, and why, and for whose benefit.
 
Old 11-08-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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And, as is always the case, there are always schools that do offer or mandate classes in mass media, which covers news, advertising, etc. Our High School has offered two classes in that for a number of years.

Perhaps someone would like to start another thread about what they think the ideal curriculum would be.
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