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Old 11-27-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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breaks down? nyc spends $17,000 to educate one child in the 2nd grade, which it probably twice the national average (?)....

is a large portion of this due to teacher salary? special programs?

thanks
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Son of a *****.
  • Of the $24,800 per pupil spent in Trenton, $1,900 comes from local taxpayers and $21,400 from the state.
  • Montgomery spends $13,400 per pupil, of which $12,500 comes from local taxes and $800 from the state.
  • West Windsor-Plainsboro spends $15,600 per pupil, of which $14,200 comes from local taxes and $1,400 from the state.
  • Princeton spends $16,500 per pupil, of which $15,300 comes from local taxes and $1,000 from the state.

What's up with the state funding Trenton?
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Son of a *****.
  • Of the $24,800 per pupil spent in Trenton, $1,900 comes from local taxpayers and $21,400 from the state.
  • Montgomery spends $13,400 per pupil, of which $12,500 comes from local taxes and $800 from the state.
  • West Windsor-Plainsboro spends $15,600 per pupil, of which $14,200 comes from local taxes and $1,400 from the state.
  • Princeton spends $16,500 per pupil, of which $15,300 comes from local taxes and $1,000 from the state.
What's up with the state funding Trenton?
Trenton is the capital? If there is a lot of State owned property in the City the figure may reflect payment in lieu of property taxes since governmental bodies are exempt from paying property taxes to another governmental body. Annapolis has the same issue here in MD being the capital and also home to the Naval Academy, although Annapolis public schools are part of the Anne Arundel County Public School System.


Back to the OP: per pupil spending generally reflects the total cost of all programs, special education, employees of all types, bonded debt, building upkeep and maintenance, etc. Typically, school systems spend roughly 80% of their monies on personnel. Depending on the accounting system used that figure could include the money spent for out of system placement for students for various reasons (special education, behavioral problems, etc.)
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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Trenton is the capital? If there is a lot of State owned property in the City the figure may reflect payment in lieu of property taxes since governmental bodies are exempt from paying property taxes to another governmental body. Annapolis has the same issue here in MD being the capital and also home to the Naval Academy, although Annapolis public schools are part of the Anne Arundel County Public School System.


Back to the OP: per pupil spending generally reflects the total cost of all programs, special education, employees of all types, bonded debt, building upkeep and maintenance, etc. Typically, school systems spend roughly 80% of their monies on personnel. Depending on the accounting system used that figure could include the money spent for out of system placement for students for various reasons (special education, behavioral problems, etc.)
thanks^^^. So for example , the fact that a public school (ie. atlanta) spends half that , means what? would it mean they pay employees less, the buildings cost less to maintain, or do they have less books, art and music?
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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Michigan pays out between $6700--$7600? There is additional monies districts (each city) can raise. The more expensive suburbs pay out close to $12000 for each student.

Here in Nc, it ranges from $4900 -- $8300...not sure how it's figured.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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thanks^^^. So for example , the fact that a public school (ie. atlanta) spends half that , means what? would it mean they pay employees less, the buildings cost less to maintain, or do they have less books, art and music?

Just guessing here:
Salaries are likely lower by a lot in Atlanta. The buildings are probably newer so cost less to maintain. Heating cost in the winter would be less. I don't know about various programs, although sports in general are big in Georgia. Various Special Education programs can chew up a lot of money in a short period of time if you have a lot of out of system placements. I imagine NYC likely has to have a lot more ESOL programs. Costs in general are higher in NYC.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Here you go:http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ney-per-pupil/ I'm sure there are many different ways to figure it too.

This site http://www.datamasher.org/mash-ups/s...and-sat-scores shows the amount spent and the SAT scores. I find the SAT scores misleading because many students take the ACT instead of the SAT in the mid-west, and the ones that do take it are probably the better students.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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www.Greatschools.org has the $/pupil per year for every district.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:09 AM
 
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The breakdown covers everything, salaries, programs, heat, electric bills, books, etc. I am sure a VERY large portion of the NYC per pupil spending is covering special programs for low income students trying to get them on track. Generally you will find that the highest per pupil spending is in inner city districts. I know that our district spends about $9000/student vs Minneapolis spending about $14,000/student. Teacher salaries in each state do not vary that much. Special ed programs eat up huge portions of school budgets so the more kids you have in SPED, the higher per pupil spending you see.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:01 AM
 
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Here it's about $10,000, and most special education costs are not included, they are federally subsidized. The higher cost in NY is most likely from higher property costs, and having to pay teachers more due to the high cost of living.
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