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Old 12-14-2011, 03:20 PM
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I recently came across learning some aspects of Russian Math vs US math education. Will anyone help me understand more about elementary Russian math curriculum? where could I find resources? So far what I have heard is great. thank you
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:46 PM
Location: Haifa
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Here's an article that may help you.

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:53 PM
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Thank you NellVA, I recently read that article, but I am looking for more in depth aspects of their curriculum, which could be available in English language. Any ideas?
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:11 AM
Location: Chicago
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Interesting case study.... Every Russian I know is superb at math, so I have always wondered how it is taught in their schools. Is the Russian model similar to the Singapore Math model? The Singapore strategies for solving word problems are excellent IMO.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:01 AM
Location: Central Florida
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All I know is when I get exchange students from there and other Eastern European countries, they are always way ahead of our students and actually refuse to do all the "steps" that we make our students do, arriving at the correct answer and in a much quicker time. Sometimes I think we are our own worst enemies in education in the name of "tradition"....
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:20 PM
Location: Haifa
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Russians are taught to appreciate mathematics at a younger age. Mathematics is taught progressivly and shown how each levels connects. They will usually have completed some level of calculus by the end of tenth grade.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:39 PM
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You can get some of it here:

Mathematics Curriculum

This program is based on the Russian Model and is web-based

Reasoning Mind — Home Page

Here's a book you may want to buy

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Old 12-19-2011, 08:53 PM
Location: San Francisco, CA
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In America, you solve math problem...

In Russia, math problem solves you!
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:57 AM
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Being a graduate of a Russian school NN years ago, I just recently came in contact with how they teach math here in a Canadian elementary, through my kids. I am flabbergasted to say the least.

An example of learning algebra in Russia:

The Russians start school at 7.
8 years old, 2nd grade - memorizing multiplication tables by rote. No ifs, ands or buts.
9 years old, 3rd grade - simple word problems to convert into equations and solve - . (Kate has 7 candies. She and Michael have 15 candies in between them. How many candies does Michael have? -> students are supposed to convert

7 + x = 15
x = 15 - 7
x = 8

Later in the year, problems with two unknowns, 2 equations (well, for advanced kids).

10 years old, 4rd grade - starting integers. Long division / long multiplication.
11 years old, 5th grade - integer rules are all memorized ( a(b+c) = ab + ac etc.)

What I see here though is a fear of learning by rote. A fear, or inability to make children to memorize. Or discarded as too abusive?? (we had to memorize poems/texts, as well. I think memory development is wonderful). Not talking about teachers, more about school boards who set the rules. But the teachers have not learned by the rote, neither (since the drills were thrown out in the 80s?) so they basically don't know any better.

How can one never know multiplication tables??? At 8, we'd spend about 2 weeks on a single times table. Each pupil had to stand in front of the class and recite the table. Then we'd move onto the next table. The tables were in your bloodstream after that. I am sure older Canadians/Americans remember the drills, too.

Leaving my kids' math education to their school is unthinkable to me. They would not know how to add/subtract in column by the 4th grade. I teach my kids what I listed above, at home. Yet, my kids' doing it all automatically IS FROWN UPON !!!! I feel so bad for mid/high school students as they have no foundation.

Apparently, the sorry state of math teaching bothers a lot of Canadians, as can be seen in the 600 comments to this article:

Why Alex can’t add (or subtract, multiply or divide)

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Old 12-31-2011, 07:36 PM
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Nuala makes some interesting points, especially about rote learning of tables.

There is some diversity in how math is taught in the US, some curriculums are better than others.

Some curriculums really want to avoid kids acheiving mastery of basic algorithms for addition etc.
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