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06-10-2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by psr13
Ummm, even most atheists admit that Christ was a real person and a really great guy. I see no problem with that award.
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Most Christians have never been confronted with the fact that there is little evidence outside the bible for Christ's existence, but that is the truth. Now, that doesn't mean that he didn't exist, but he is NOT a historical figure in the sense that Julius Ceasar was, for example. Ceasar was written about not only by Romans, but by others. There are images of him that date to his own lifetime. We have a complete history of his life. We have words written by Caesar himself and words written by both his friends and his enemies. Artifacts confirm his life and death, as do his successors. Caesar established a style of government – and a calendar – which endured for centuries. No such evidence exists for Jesus.
Did Jesus exist?
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ALL CLAIMS OF JESUS DERIVE FROM HEARSAY ACCOUNTS
No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations, I will use the information and dates to show that even if these sources did not come from interpolations, they could still not serve as reliable evidence for a historical Jesus, simply because all sources about Jesus derive from hearsay accounts.
Hearsay means information derived from other people rather than on a witness' own knowledge.
Courts of law do not generally allow hearsay as testimony, and nor does honest modern scholarship. Hearsay does not provide good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it.
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06-10-2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
I do. I am Christian, by the way. How do you think the Jewish kids in that public school feel about that award?
It's not only probably not constitutional, it's un-Christian.
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This. It seems designed to make those outside our faith feel excluded and like losers, as I don't see how they can win. Not a very Christ-like award. |
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