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Old 08-19-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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Ridiculous. Americans need to compete in a global economy. IB has high standards and the kids learn a lot.
Wow propaganda much?

"Compete in a global economy" --- what does that mean? I'll let you explain what that is and how IB helps but I doubt you can.

 
Old 08-19-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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I graduated from an IB program in a public high school. I think IB provides an EXCELLENT education. Our school also offered AP courses. I personally felt that IB was far superior to AP, but I suppose that depends on the individual class.

I don't think schools NEED IB to be able to provide a stellar education, but for those looking for an internationally-recognized structure, IB certainly does the job. Then again, perhaps IB has helped brainwash me into someone who thinks that an ability to think critically and be aware that there's a lot going on this world outside of this country. For those afraid that their kids will learn how to actually THINK rather than just memorize facts, well, yes, then they are correct that IB can be dangerous.
It's not a question of KNOWING what is going on around the world, but what would they have you DO about it? UNESCO just wants kids to jump on the "UN is the new world government and you must interfere in everyone else's business and dump the constitutional republic for world government so we can control the world!!!!"
 
Old 08-19-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Ahhh, the global economy. Yes, Keynesian economics, Obamanomics and socialism are working well for Europe, aren't they? I guess you think the UN Declaration of Human Rights should supersede our U.S. Constitution, yes? Don't you see that what IB preaches is exactly what is going to undermine American exceptionalism and our ability to compete in a free market?
So how is 1+1=2 going to fly globally? Is it different in China?
How is French global? French is French, right?
Science is science, same as any country, right? Is it different somewhere else? Are any of these things different somewhere else?

What is different about IB? It's the agenda.. has nothing to do with learning things we've always learned.

THAT IS NOT what IB is about.. but the fools on this forum have no clue what its goals are..
Maybe they should head on over to International education - The International Baccalaureate offers high quality programmes of education to a worldwide community of schools and find out.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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Why don't we trade with Cuba? What's up with SANCTIONS on Iran? THAT is isolationism, and as long as YOU the ignorant one, brought up Ron Paul, he is NOT for those things, so that make YOU the isolationist, not him.
Isolationism redux via Ron Paul - The Washington Post

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Paul opposes just about all international treaties and organizations. He would have the United States pull out of the United Nations and NATO. He would do away with foreign aid, abolish the CIA and essentially turn his back on the rest of the world. This is pretty much what used to be called isolationism, and it allowed Hitler to presume, quite correctly as it turned out, that America would not interfere with his plans to conquer Europe, Britain included. It took Germany’s declaration of war on the United States, not the other way round, to get Uncle Sam involved.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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So how is 1+1=2 going to fly globally? Is it different in China?
How is French global? French is French, right?
Science is science, same as any country, right? Is it different somewhere else? Are any of these things different somewhere else?

What is different about IB? It's the agenda.. has nothing to do with learning things we've always learned.

THAT IS NOT what IB is about.. but the fools on this forum have no clue what its goals are..
Maybe they should head on over to International education - The International Baccalaureate offers high quality programmes of education to a worldwide community of schools and find out.
No, the agenda is NOT what you think it is. Conservatives do not like citizens learning about other countries, or learning languages other than English because English is the only language that matters to them and other cultures are *inferior* to ours.

Math and science are not *different* in other countries, but the US does not teach these subjects well *and* the US wants to teach junk science which is why conservatives insist on teaching intelligent design (which belongs in religion classes) in science class. Fortunately, we just dodge that bullet in Texas.

The world is much smaller than it used to be. In this age of information technology, even exotic places thousands of miles away are only a few hours or a click away. They can, and do, affect the way we live.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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On what grounds? Because you CLAIM it teachers a view point you don't hold? Then don't send your child to one of those schools or enroll that child in that program in your school.

The movement for charter schools, more school choice, etc does not mean as long as your AGREE with the choice. There are some nutjob charter schools that teach some whack a doodle things. Well, you wanted school choice. Enjoy!
How about on Public Law 103-236 grounds, for starters?

US Law Requires Defunding UNESCO Over Palestinian Recognition | United Nations, American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ

I do not care if IB is sold to private educational institutions and people are free to CHOOSE to pay tuition to have their children indoctrinated there.

However, it is against the law to spend U.S. taxdollars on an organization that actively recognizes the terrorist Palestinian Authority as a member.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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Please sign the following petition to remove IB from American public schools:
Telling a school what they CAN'T teach is as oppressive as telling a school what they MUST teach.

You don't like the program? Don't send your child to a school that has it.

If you are that afraid that your children will be brainwashed by the U.N. teach them how to think for themselves. And if you're afraid the U.S. is yielding its powers to the U.N. be sure to exercise your right to vote.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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The Wa Po is not exactly a reliable source for what a CONSERVATIVE thinks. None of what you read there actually pertains to Dr. Paul.. geesh.

And regarding this:

"Paul opposes just about all international treaties and organizations. He would have the United States pull out of the United Nations and NATO. He would do away with foreign aid, abolish the CIA and essentially turn his back on the rest of the world. This is pretty much what used to be called isolationism, and it allowed Hitler to presume, quite correctly as it turned out, that America would not interfere with his plans to conquer Europe, Britain included. It took Germany’s declaration of war on the United States, not the other way round, to get Uncle Sam involved."

Thank GOD HE DOES!
Why should we belong to a COMMUNIST group that wants to destroy our government and impose WORLD GOVERNMENT, keep us engaged in WARS (not trade and be friends as Paul wants to do) and continue with the CIA who support socialist revolutions abroad? ONLY A NUT WOULD NOT AGREE to get out of the UN at this point.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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No, the agenda is NOT what you think it is. Conservatives do not like citizens learning about other countries, or learning languages other than English because English is the only language that matters to them and other cultures are *inferior* to ours.
Oh gee, thanks for telling me what I think! WRONG! If you had half a brain you'd know it has nothing to do with learning about other countries. I had two languages before I was 12, but no one ever told me I had to give up sovereignty to study them!!!!!

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Math and science are not *different* in other countries, but the US does not teach these subjects well *and* the US wants to teach junk science which is why conservatives insist on teaching intelligent design (which belongs in religion classes) in science class. Fortunately, we just dodge that bullet in Texas.
Ah NO. IB is constructivism which is WORSE teaching. There also should be NO room for political agendas in education but you are advocating for one... and from UNESCO communists!

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The world is much smaller than it used to be. In this age of information technology, even exotic places thousands of miles away are only a few hours or a click away. They can, and do, affect the way we live.
Aw that's nice... but they are not going to tell us we need to be part of their communist world government under the rule of the elites, the corporations and the UN.... what are you a corporate hack? Do you work for George Soros and David Rockefeller? Oh wait, maybe Henry Kissinger.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Telling a school what they CAN'T teach is as oppressive as telling a school what they MUST teach.

You don't like the program? Don't send your child to a school that has it.

If you are that afraid that your children will be brainwashed by the U.N. teach them how to think for themselves. And if you're afraid the U.S. is yielding its powers to the U.N. be sure to exercise your right to vote.
Unfortunately you cannot when the whole district has allowed the UN to take it over using YOUR tax dollars. Then what???

The UN is teaching the kids how to think for the UN, period... You're pretty dumb if you think otherwise...
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