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Old 02-20-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: New York
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Do any of you agree that this legislation should be overturned one day in order to improve the public education system?
This legislation forces kids to think on the exact same level, it doesn't incorporate different methods of learning nor does it acknowledge children who are far more advanced than others. It also puts a strangle hold on schools that are already great, due to the fact that those schools can't become greater than they already are. I believe the legislation has failed, and it's just an educational assembly line creating obedient workers.
I remember when I was in high school, I went to one of the most dangerous high schools in Bronx, NY at the time. After my freshman year, I requested a transfer to a better school in the area. After reviewing my transfer request, the Board of Education responded in a letter, from what I can remember, the letter said (I'm paraphrasing), "I'm sorry you're transfer was graciously accepted, however, due to "No child left behind" we must give your transfer to a child who is performing below your standards and doesn't have a placement in a classroom as of yet."
I remember showing the letter to my parent's and they were outraged lol.

What does everyone else think of the legislation?
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's been replaced by Race To The Top and the imposition nationally of Common Core Standards. You've got your wish. And as others say, "Be careful what you wish for".
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:26 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Teachers and schools in the Pacific Northwest have begun to boycott standardized tests that they feel are worthless and/or damaging to education. I think that is a good start.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Because of the impossible odds of NCLB that 100% of school children pass their state tests next year almost every state has applied for a waiver. Part of that waiver involves them moving over to RTT and common core standards.

Looks like we might be jumping from the frying pan into the fire here.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: A little corner of paradise
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All the teachers I know have been strongly against NCLB since it was first discussed. Since the goal has always been 100% proficiency, regardless of student ability, schools were set up to fail from the beginning. It's one of the things that makes it so hard to hear teachers being slammed for not doing their job. This is what the job has been turned into.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Teachers and schools in the Pacific Northwest have begun to boycott standardized tests that they feel are worthless and/or damaging to education. I think that is a good start.

But it will be DOA if the rest of us do not follow suit.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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Just another "great" milestone that GWB erected for this nation.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Just another "great" milestone that GWB erected for this nation.

NCLB was actually written by a group of people that included DIANA RAVITCH during the Clinton administration. It was NEVER intended to be used as it is currently and Ms. Ravitch has spent the better part of the last 10+ years trying to have it repealed.

Race to the Top today---Privatization tomorrow.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Just another "great" milestone that GWB erected for this nation.
The concept of NCLB wasn't flawed. schools should have a minimum standard to meet. Such as for graduation rates. That's an important metric, colleges boast about it. If the dropout rate is high, or it's taking students 5+ years to graduate that system has an issue.

The implementation of NCLB was the flawed part. Which usually happens when education bureaucrats (not teachers) are put in charge of an educational program.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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The concept of NCLB wasn't flawed. schools should have a minimum standard to meet. Such as for graduation rates. That's an important metric, colleges boast about it. If the dropout rate is high, or it's taking students 5+ years to graduate that system has an issue.

The implementation of NCLB was the flawed part. Which usually happens when education bureaucrats (not teachers) are put in charge of an educational program.
I just think it's ridiculous to expect all students and schools to meet the same standards, even if it's some sort of an arbitrary minimum. That's sort of like expecting every police department in the country that receives Federal public safety dollars to have some sort of a maximum (in this case) crime rate in their area, regardless of what their area is like.
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