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Old 04-27-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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A full time professor is paid a salary, not just for each class he/she teaches. More often than not, research and publishing is a part of the job description.

Adjuncts are paid by the class, and they generally have no other duties to the university other than teaching and class preparation.
And how does that negate my facts? The person we're discussingis not fulltime faculty, she's an adjunct. Full time teaching load is 12 credit hours, regardless of your tenure status. Not all tenured or full time faculty have lowered teaching loads, it depends on the institution. Adjuncts are paid by class, but the max load they could be expected to teach properly is the same, 12 credit hours per semester.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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What is the range (yearly) for a part-time prof in NYC? It would help if she told how much she actually makes.
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About $2000 per 3 credit course, or $8000 per semester, $16,000 per year.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:25 AM
 
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It sounds like she is teaching around 2 classes per semester. She didn't get her master's until 2010, when she was 49. Bear in mind that she lacks a PhD. That's a plan for failure in academia.
Exactly. Folks that want to be full professors get a PhD and pursue a full time professorship.

Folks that need a little extra money on the side do adjunct teaching. Being an adjunct isn't even a normal career path to become a full professor.
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Oh, good, another thread full of hated and contempt for the working poor. Yes, we'd all be filthy rich if we just bootstrapped a little harder.
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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About $2000 per 3 credit course, or $8000 per semester, $16,000 per year.
Hmmm. Could it possibly be less than that? If she were making around 15-16K I don't see how you could be forced in to homelesness unless you had some weird outstanding situation with debt. Even in NYC, I would guess that several hundred would get you a room in a basment or flat somewhere with enough money left over to eat simple and get around the city.
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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What is the range (yearly) for a part-time prof in NYC? It would help if she told how much she actually makes.
She is making "several thousand dollars per course" for two courses.

She has educational loans for her Master's degree, which came from a pricey private college, and she has unpaid medical bills.

She is another person who paid too much for a degree in a field which will only allow her to teach and a niche for which there is not much demand. She previously also taught at a community college but was not assigned any classes there this year because she "lacked seniority". That means they had full time staff to teach those courses.
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Old 04-27-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Woman with few marketable skills and a part-time teaching job can't make ends meet. Sad story, but what's to be accomplished with her one-woman protest?
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Old 04-27-2014, 02:06 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Hmmm. Could it possibly be less than that? If she were making around 15-16K I don't see how you could be forced in to homelesness unless you had some weird outstanding situation with debt. Even in NYC, I would guess that several hundred would get you a room in a basment or flat somewhere with enough money left over to eat simple and get around the city.
I live in a high cost of living area. The rooms in a basement around here go for $800-1000 a month, which if she made $16K would leave $530 a month for everything else at best. Yes, an income that low in NYC will leave you homeless.
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Old 04-27-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I live in a high cost of living area. The rooms in a basement around here go for $800-1000 a month, which if she made $16K would leave $530 a month for everything else at best. Yes, an income that low in NYC will leave you homeless.
But that would just be a bad lifestyle, and not actually homeless. You can do groceries and have something left over with $530. I'm also a bit perplexed as to why she wouldn't just even pick up a small service industry job to go along with it. It's not a desirable lifestyle, but I just think the article was initially misleading.
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I live in a high cost of living area. The rooms in a basement around here go for $800-1000 a month, which if she made $16K would leave $530 a month for everything else at best. Yes, an income that low in NYC will leave you homeless.
Yet, there are so many other options available versus sleeping in a car. She could find other adjunct professors to get a roommate setup somewhere, rent a room in somebody's home, trade in-home care for a senior or disabled person in exchange for rent.

I'm not suggesting she doesn't have a valid complaint about teacher's wages, but making bad choices or not brainstorming to find good solutions is counter-productive.
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