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-I went to community college after highschool, and to get into the CC, the SAT wasn't required. Then, you could transfer from CC to a 4 year school and you didn't need to take it.
Why is it so mandatory in highschool then, lol? It seems like a gigantic waste. It's an anachronism.
Why is one test the judge of so many students?
I think standardized testing also perpetuates an educational gap between students. The "haves" and "have nots". Those who can afford test prep and those who can't.
All very true. A lot of things in education are an anachronism. SAT being one of them.
I have a friend who works for ETS. A lot of the people there are in denial of this trend. They either don't know it exists, or don't believe it's real. This, in spite of articles about it in the New York times that crop up periodically. They're strangely clueless.
I have a friend who works for ETS. A lot of the people there are in denial of this trend. They either don't know it exists, or don't believe it's real. This, in spite of articles about it in the New York times that crop up periodically. They're strangely clueless.
Well, if they work for ETS and there are articles saying SATs aren't needed, then of course they'd want to protect their jobs.
What's controversial and new in Belasco's findings is this: Low-income and minority enrollments did not see any more gains at the test-optional colleges than at the schools that still require the standardized tests. Belasco said this discovery surprised him.
Here's the thing the schools that go optional usually substitute SAT/ACT for something else like AP tests. The little dirty secret is that it's not only SATs where URM fair poorly.
The notion that if only we got rid of tests there'd be more Black & Brown kids at elite colleges is comical.
-I went to community college after highschool, and to get into the CC, the SAT wasn't required. Then, you could transfer from CC to a 4 year school and you didn't need to take it.
Why is it so mandatory in highschool then, lol? It seems like a gigantic waste. It's an anachronism.
Why is one test the judge of so many students?
I think standardized testing also perpetuates an educational gap between students. The "haves" and "have nots". Those who can afford test prep and those who can't.
Good you didn't take them and you ended up where you belong at community college. Seems the tests are working fine.
I have a friend who works for ETS. A lot of the people there are in denial of this trend. They either don't know it exists, or don't believe it's real. This, in spite of articles about it in the New York times that crop up periodically. They're strangely clueless.
That's because they know what happens behind the scenes. They also know that colleges especially elite ones want to protect their brand. Until one of the Big 3, (Harvard, Yale or Princeton) give up tests they'll be in business. To date no sign that is going to take place.
As higher education has been downgraded and genericized, with a degree being the new high school diploma, it is no wonder that its all going to be touchy-feely stuff from now on.
A PhD in a STEM subject will show you can actually do it - and everything else will be a rubber stamp proving you had the money or got a loan to pay for it.
As higher education has been downgraded and genericized, with a degree being the new high school diploma, it is no wonder that its all going to be touchy-feely stuff from now on.
A PhD in a STEM subject will show you can actually do it - and everything else will be a rubber stamp proving you had the money or got a loan to pay for it.
Masters seems to be the new Bachelor degree these days since the 4 year degree is so common among workers. And a 2 year CC degree won't even get you in the door for STEM.
Masters seems to be the new Bachelor degree these days since the 4 year degree is so common among workers. And a 2 year CC degree won't even get you in the door for STEM.
Especially in the softer subjects, lots of folks with masters degrees from university of Phoenix running around.
No offense, but Temple isn't terribly selective. 67% admissions rate; they probably figured why should we make it any harder for applicants to get in?
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