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Old 11-17-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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So I was thinking about how these are things people need in life, and where they have gone. We had shop, home-etc, civics, as well as art, music, swimming, and drama. These are really great things to have in schools. However programs keeps getting cut and replaced with rooms filled with computers.

Speaking Manhattanizing the nation. We are crippling people from having basic skills like driving, civics, and even shop. I am not saying that is for everybody but a problem with giving our students less responsibility out of FEAR instead of actually teaching them anything at all.

Without these things all I can see are rooms of Math, English, Social studies, X_Language and Science being taught. These are things that can go one way or another.

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Old 11-17-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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Civics is required here in high school, and the district I was in required driver's ed (not behind the wheel). Behind the wheel used to be common, but the liability is way too high.
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Old 11-17-2014, 10:09 PM
 
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So I was thinking about how these are things people need in life, and where they have gone. We had shop, home-etc, civics, as well as art, music, swimming, and drama. These are really great things to have in schools. However programs keeps getting cut and replaced with rooms filled with computers.


Speaking Manhattanizing the nation. We are crippling people from having basic skills like driving, civics, and even shop. I am not saying that is for everybody but a problem with giving our students less responsibility out of FEAR instead of actually teaching them anything at all.


Without these things all I can see are rooms of Math, English, Social studies, X_Language and Science being taught. These are things that can go one way or another.
Are you a product of all of these great classes that have been taken over by rooms of math, English, etc.?

Make things "worst"?

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Old 11-17-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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How about running a budget for one's financial life.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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I have an urge to shout.... Many of these things ARE required in some school districts. EVERY sophomore in our district must take Drivers Ed. It's required for graduation. On the road training is an add-on and there is a cost.

Our students have years and years of American history, civics is in there. Industrial design and consumer health have taken the place of shop and home ec, but both teach the same skills, added with current tech components. Those classes are mandatory for all 8th grade students. In HS, advanced classes can be taken as electives.

There is no national curriculum.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:11 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Our school district has those classes. We also have a semester on personal finance and budgeting.
Our rooms are NOT filled with computers, though. Every jr hi/sr hi student gets a laptop.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Many of these things ARE required in some school districts. EVERY sophomore in our district must take Drivers Ed. It's required for graduation.
Our state got rid of Drivers Ed in the late 1970s due to budget cuts. Parents must pay for their kids to take both classroom and behind the wheel instruction privately, at a cost of $350 and more.
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:41 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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OP, where do you live that Civics isn't required? Why should shop be required? Swimming depend on the state. California has always required swimming as a safety measure, because of its long coastline. You're going to have to do more than post a short rant. You should post your arguments for the subjects you believe should be requirements.
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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Our state got rid of Drivers Ed in the late 1970s due to budget cuts. Parents must pay for their kids to take both classroom and behind the wheel instruction privately, at a cost of $350 and more.
Are you talking about CA? Some districts do have it, or had it at least in the early 2000s. My district required the classroom instruction for graduation.

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OP, where do you live that Civics isn't required? Why should shop be required? Swimming depend on the state. California has always required swimming as a safety measure, because of its long coastline. You're going to have to do more than post a short rant. You should post your arguments for the subjects you believe should be requirements.
California does not require swimming. Some districts may, but not all do. My district didn't. In fact, regular P.E. classes did not do any swimming at all despite having pools on campus.
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Are you talking about CA? Some districts do have it, or had it at least in the early 2000s.
Not many, though.
"In Orange County, 162 students enrolled in driverís ed at six public schools in 2012-13, the most recent numbers available. Just a decade earlier, 1,986 took the class at 33 schools."
Whatever happened to driver's ed in high schools? - The Orange County Register
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