08102015, 07:48 AM



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In the advanced Track. Algebra 2 would be a sophomore class allowing juniors to do precalc and seniors calculus

08102015, 07:49 AM



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I expected Algebra II to be 8th grade
It's sad that most don't even finish calculus by the time they graduate high school :S
Though math wasn't really all that hard for me so I'm biased... But I can't figure out why multiplication/division isn't taught earlier than middle school, if they can add, they can multiple since its just an extension of addition

08102015, 08:13 AM



Location: New England
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I graduated in Mass (1995).
9th: Geometry
10th: Algebra II
11th: pre Calc
12th: Calc
Most students were a year behind and did Algebra II in 11th

08102015, 08:38 AM



Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeb
I expected Algebra II to be 8th grade
It's sad that most don't even finish calculus by the time they graduate high school :S......

In what solar system? The order of Math classes hasn't changed for decades nor have the grades in which they're offered for the average student.
Yes, some very small number of kids come into 9th grade taking Alg II or even PreCal. Those kids are the very rare exception.

08102015, 09:27 AM



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Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeb
I expected Algebra II to be 8th grade
It's sad that most don't even finish calculus by the time they graduate high school :S
Though math wasn't really all that hard for me so I'm biased... But I can't figure out why multiplication/division isn't taught earlier than middle school, if they can add, they can multiple since its just an extension of addition

Seriously? Multiplication is taught in 3rd or 4th grade everywhere I have lived. Algebra II is not an 8th grade class anywhere I know of except in the case of a district that teaches Algebra II right after Algebra I and then it is for advanced kids. In most places, the order is Algebra I, Geometry and then Algebra II so Geometry could be an 8th grade course for the advanced kids.
My ds who was advanced in math took Algebra I in 7th and Geometry in 8th grade which made Algebra II honors his 10th grade class. There were a very few kids in his school who did take it early and who were then going to Northwestern for math classes after calculus.

08102015, 10:01 AM



Location: Raleigh NC
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Originally Posted by Qwerty
Look up the course catalog at the school where you want to student teach and see when most of the kids are taking that class. At our high school the college bound kids would have taken Algebra 2 as sophomores.

This should be posted on the school website...or at minimum the district website.
I don't know where y'all live but in NC we just switched to Common Core, so they take Math 1, (in 8th or 9th grade) Math 2, Math 3 then Pre calc. My oldest took Alg 1 in 8th grade, my youngest took Math 1 in 8th grade. I think they have scrambled up the curriculum a bit so Math 1 is not just Alg, and Math 2 is not just trig. So you may want to look up a curriculum map for your state. (website) And shame on your teacher preparation program for not providing this information for you. You should have covered this in class.

08102015, 11:47 AM



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If the class is taught across multiple grades, I'd pick the lowest grade as that would generally be the best students.

08102015, 12:07 PM



Location: Cincinnati near
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At my high school there were 3 tracks.
The lowest was:
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Geometry/Trig
College Algebra
Middle was
Algebra 1
Algebra 2
Geometry/Precalculus
AB Calc
High was
Algebra 2
Prob Stat/ Geometry
Precalc/Calc A
BC Calc.
Electives were Diff Eq and Linear Algebra.
This was a private school so I expect it might be different than public. In this case, algebra 2 was a grade 9 or 10 class, but the top students took it as freshmen.

08102015, 12:34 PM



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Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeb
I expected Algebra II to be 8th grade
It's sad that most don't even finish calculus by the time they graduate high school :S
Though math wasn't really all that hard for me so I'm biased... But I can't figure out why multiplication/division isn't taught earlier than middle school, if they can add, they can multiple since its just an extension of addition

If you finished calculus in high school, what would be the point in offering mathematics in college?
I think you have watched too many episode of Star Trek The Next Generation.
And in what world do they wait till middle school to teach multiplication/division?
In addition, the standard for numbering classes such as Algebra 1, Algebra 2, etc., is within the same school. Even if an 8th grade class in junior high learns algebra, the 9th grade high school algebra class would still be Algebra 1.

08102015, 01:01 PM



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If you finished calculus in high school, what would be the point in offering mathematics in college?
I think you have watched too many episode of Star Trek The Next Generation.
And in what world do they wait till middle school to teach multiplication/division?
In addition, the standard for numbering classes such as Algebra 1, Algebra 2, etc., is within the same school. Even if an 8th grade class in junior high learns algebra, the 9th grade high school algebra class would still be Algebra 1.

At the college where I work most all the admited students have taken calculus in high school. It's not that unusual.
Plus there are A LOT of math options past calculus.
It's one of the standard pieces of advice when it comes to college prep to make sure your kid takes algebra in the 8th grade so they can be on track to complete the math sequence in time to take AP Calc or Calc AB/BC.
But I abolutely agree multiplication is taught in grade school, I don't know where that came from.

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