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Hypothetically, if SSS's kid brought a peanut butter sandwich into the presence of another child with a known peanut allergy then that act is an assault. As a child is not held responsible for their actions their parents must be held responsible. So, SSS, are you willing to face, at a minimum, an assault charge, because you exercised your freedom to put a child at risk and, in the worst case killed that allergic child, are you willing to face a negligent or possibly premeditated homicide charge? Do you realize what responsible really means?
I think the inconvenience of a peanut free school is a small price to pay for avoiding the responsibility of harming an allergic child.
My oldest and youngest (girl 25, boy 12) both have peanut allergies. We have never asked the school to make accomodations. Both were taught very young to avoid them (I discovered the oldest one's problem when sharing cashews with her when she was 2). Both have had one episode at school-oldest with trail mix on a field trip, youngest this year with a pre-made cookie. Both got hit with Benadryl liquid. Ruined the field trip for oldest one, it was down at Yorktown, VA. She also got hit in Ireland with some type of sauce she ate. Anyway, we've been lucky and the kids have been attentive. Funny thing, no peanut problems with the two kids in the middle.
Hypothetically, if SSS's kid brought a peanut butter sandwich into the presence of another child with a known peanut allergy then that act is an assault. As a child is not held responsible for their actions their parents must be held responsible. So, SSS, are you willing to face, at a minimum, an assault charge, because you exercised your freedom to put a child at risk and, in the worst case killed that allergic child, are you willing to face a negligent or possibly premeditated homicide charge? Do you realize what responsible really means?
I think the inconvenience of a peanut free school is a small price to pay for avoiding the responsibility of harming an allergic child.
Cars, guns, swimming pools, playground accidents...all cause WAAYYY more deaths that peanut allergies. Shall we ban them too? I don't want my child to be struck and killed by a car, but that doesn't mean I will demand that you quit driving it.
Hypothetically, if SSS's kid brought a peanut butter sandwich into the presence of another child with a known peanut allergy then that act is an assault. As a child is not held responsible for their actions their parents must be held responsible. So, SSS, are you willing to face, at a minimum, an assault charge, because you exercised your freedom to put a child at risk and, in the worst case killed that allergic child, are you willing to face a negligent or possibly premeditated homicide charge? Do you realize what responsible really means?
Assault? LOL. Perhaps in your socialistic state but, not here in Arizona.
brillance at its highest, give it up for the public school system. its not gang bangers its not unreported rape and assault of teachers. its not abuse of children by thugs in the school.
its not illiteracy
its peanut butter. that is the only issue. voucher system the sooner the better.
Cars, guns, swimming pools, playground accidents...all cause WAAYYY more deaths that peanut allergies. Shall we ban them too? I don't want my child to be struck and killed by a car, but that doesn't mean I will demand that you quit driving it.
brillance at its highest, give it up for the public school system. its not gang bangers its not unreported rape and assault of teachers. its not abuse of children by thugs in the school.
its not illiteracy
its peanut butter. that is the only issue. voucher system the sooner the better.
The difference is you can SEE cars, swimming pools, guns etc. You can't always SEE where a peanut butter sandwich has been. And by the way, you can teach a child to swim, you can even put fences around them ( which is a law in most places) but you can't TEACH a child NOT to be allergic. And that link you provided proves nothing.The doctor admits that there ARE life threatening allergies, while they may not be as prevalent as deaths from car accidents, they should still be a concern. Or are you saying that unless MORE CHILDREN DIE from peanuts, they aren't important? Tell that to the parents who have lost or even nearly lost a child. And something that doesn't seem to be getting through is that yes! a ten year child with a peanut allergy would probably have the sense not to eat a peanut off the floor, but that doesn't mean that the same child would not be effected by sitting in a seat five rows back that also came in contact with that peanut when it fell out of some other child's backpack.
And as for comparing peanuts to gangs, unreported rapes, assaults on teachers and yes, even illiteracy...why? Noone said those weren't important issues, And I don't recall anyone saying that the issue of peanuts in school were more important. The name of this thread is "can a school mandate that all students be peanut free". It's not "which is more important" or even "peanuts vs guns".
I'll say it again, there's no reason why there can't be some concessions made when a child's life is at stake. There are compromises that can be made. There are things that can be done to protect the lives of these children. But I guess this all just boils down to the fact that some people are more sympathetic to the plight of those with life threatening allergies and some people just don't give a flip unless it effects them.
Last edited by happeemommee; 01-14-2009 at 08:55 PM..
I'll say it again, there's no reason why there can't be some concessions made when a child's life is at stake. There are compromises that can be made. There are things that can be done to protect the lives of these children. But I guess this all just boils down to the fact that some people are more sympathetic to the plight of those with life threatening allergies and some people just don't give a flip unless it effects them.
I'm a single mother on a fixed income, raising two children by myself. I am a Buddhist and as such, also a vegan due to my religious beliefs. I work very hard in order to support myself and not be a leech on the government welfare t*t. Of the nutritious things that my children can take to school for lunch, peanut butter is the one I can afford. I can't buy expensive alternative sandwich butters. My children can't switch to cheese or baloney sandwiches.
But you just wouldn't give a "flip" about any of that, would you? You'd rather infringe on my religious beliefs, and try to force me to stretch my limited budget even further in an attempt to protect your kids. They're YOUR kids, and not my responsibility. I have enough responsibility of my own keeping my children fed and clothed and healthy without taking on the added burden of worrying about yours.
I have nothing against a peanut-free zone in the school cafeteria, but unless you're willing to foot the bill and supplement my food budget in order to provide my children with alternative peanut-free foods that fit my religious restrictions, then my children will continue to consume peanut butter. It all comes down to I look after my kids and you should look after yours.
Lovely. Nothing like seeing a dead kid while you are eating lunch. A warning or a link would have been nice.
I still am amazed at all the peanut allergies there are nowadays. I do think that a small minority of parents make it a bigger issue than it is. Emphasis on small minority. There is a lady we know who swears her kid will die if she is even in the supermarket her peanut allergies are so bad and wants peanuts banned from all schools in the country. Little does she know that according to a friend, the child inhales Reeses Pieces like they are air when she is at school.
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