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Old 04-06-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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...If you put your daughter in an IEP, it means they won't test her at all and grades don't count.

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What? Most of our SPED students with IEPs took the state exams.
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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What? Most of our SPED students with IEPs took the state exams.
Well, I guess it might be on a spectrum and might depend on if the individuals can take it. However, I'm pretty sure certain students can be exempt from exams, and the special education could be a reason for it.
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:24 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Well, I guess it might be on a spectrum and might depend on if the individuals can take it. However, I'm pretty sure certain students can be exempt from exams, and the special education could be a reason for it.


NCLB and now ESSA/R3T require all students including SPED take the tests except those in Intensive Self-Contained, although IEP holders may take modified ones if that's specified in the IEP.
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Old 04-06-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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NCLB and now ESSA/R3T require all students including SPED take the tests except those in Intensive Self-Contained, although IEP holders may take modified ones if that's specified in the IEP.
Yes. We had quite a few SPED students who had modifications, but not many who didn't take the tests at all.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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When a student is an IEP, then that means they're in special education, in which case they're not gonna flunk either, because special education kids aren't tested the same way other kids are. If you put your daughter in an IEP, it means they won't test her at all and grades don't count.
This is soooo incorrect.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This is soooo incorrect.
Even within the educational community (teachers and counselors and administrators), I doubt if any particular aspect of education is less understood than special education. One year I had our sped chair develop 3 faculty meeting presentations for the staff (over 6 weeks) -- self-contained students, mainstreamed students, and the difference between (and requirements for) IEPs and 504s. And among the general public...wow, so many misconceptions.
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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This is soooo incorrect.
Maybe I should've said some and not all. I guess IEP can also include people that are of varying degrees of scholastic proficiency.
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Maybe I should've said some and not all. I guess IEP can also include people that are of varying degrees of scholastic proficiency.
You guess?

What is your background which provides you with this knowledge of sped, IEPs, and 504s?
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Well, I guess it might be on a spectrum and might depend on if the individuals can take it. However, I'm pretty sure certain students can be exempt from exams, and the special education could be a reason for it.
I work in self-contained classes. The students as silly as it may sound have to take part in the state mandated civics test and major subject tests that any Arizona high school student takes. Most that I worked with this year, don't even have the slightest idea who was our first president or was a governor of Arizona. The tests are highly adaptive and geared towards the severity of the self-contained students so that is good. Much better than one-size fits all like the AZ Civics test.
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