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Old 04-14-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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B...Period. We don;t need 400 different assemblies to show why blacks or hispanics or arabs or girls or boys with two moms or girls raised by one dad or a kid who has a peanut allergy or a kid who is in a wheelchair or .. or ... or .. needs to be treated.

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Hyperbole. Perhaps you could share with us which school has held 400 different assemblies.
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Old 04-14-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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Beyond that, teach the kids to read and write. Do math. Everybody should be respectful. Period. We don;t need 400 different assemblies to show why blacks or hispanics or arabs or girls or boys with two moms or girls raised by one dad or a kid who has a peanut allergy or a kid who is in a wheelchair or .. or ... or .. needs to be treated.
Actually, I don't think we ever had assemblies on these topics or even using lectures to explain other cultures. The fact is that if we read literature that is written by people of those other cultures, high school students *will* learn and they can learn about empathy for others in that context. Also if a high school is in a diverse area, it may be that the students would want to talk to each other about their experiences. That might best be done in a multicultural club rather than in the classroom, but it depends on the particular school and class.

Some literature by black authors that can be used in high school English

BCLS: Great Books for Teens by African-American Authors

Some literature by hispanic authors that can be used in high school English

Top Ten Best Latino Books for High Schools

Teen Books by Native Writers to Trumpet Year-Round | School Library Journal

Books about disabilities (you would need to choose carefully since there are many possibilities)

Life Challenges - Best Young Adult Book Lists - Guides Home at Contra Costa County Library

Books by Muslim authors that can be used for high school English

10 Contemporary Novels By and About Muslims You Should Read | Literary Hub

Note you cannot do everything, but you can, as an English teacher at least choose some from among the many possibilities and use them
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Old 04-14-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Actually, I don't think we ever had assemblies on these topics or even using lectures to explain other cultures. The fact is that if we read literature that is written by people of those other cultures, high school students *will* learn and they can learn about empathy for others in that context. Also if a high school is in a diverse area, it may be that the students would want to talk to each other about their experiences. That might best be done in a multicultural club rather than in the classroom, but it depends on the particular school and class.

Some literature by black authors that can be used in high school English

BCLS: Great Books for Teens by African-American Authors

Some literature by hispanic authors that can be used in high school English

Top Ten Best Latino Books for High Schools

Teen Books by Native Writers to Trumpet Year-Round | School Library Journal

Books about disabilities (you would need to choose carefully since there are many possibilities)

Life Challenges - Best Young Adult Book Lists - Guides Home at Contra Costa County Library

Books by Muslim authors that can be used for high school English

10 Contemporary Novels By and About Muslims You Should Read | Literary Hub

Note you cannot do everything, but you can, as an English teacher at least choose some from among the many possibilities and use them
Agreed. We never had a single assembly on various cultures. We did have an international NIGHT that families could participate in. We had an assembly on bullying...in general. And, as you point out, teachers were encouraged to occasionally include literature of different cultures that are significant in the country.
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:54 PM
 
Location: midwest
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Some literature by black authors that can be used in high school English

BCLS: Great Books for Teens by African-American Authors
Of course you could try something weird by a White author.

Black Man's Burden (1961) by Mack Reynolds
SF Gospel: Mack Reynolds on Africa, Islam, utopia, and progress
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32390...-h/32390-h.htm

Border, Breed Nor Birth (1963) by Mack Reynolds
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30639...-h/30639-h.htm
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Of course you could try something weird by a White author.

Black Man's Burden (1961) by Mack Reynolds
SF Gospel: Mack Reynolds on Africa, Islam, utopia, and progress
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32390...-h/32390-h.htm

Border, Breed Nor Birth (1963) by Mack Reynolds
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30639...-h/30639-h.htm
Yeah, nothing better than to learn about the Black perspective than reading white authors. Oh wait...we've always done that. Of course looking to history from science fiction is...unique.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Yeah, nothing better than to learn about the Black perspective than reading white authors. Oh wait...we've always done that. Of course looking to history from science fiction is...unique.
The trouble with the "Black Perspective" is that there usually is not a lot of emphasis on science.

But if you really think about the history of the last 500 years it is a matter of who had the technology versus who didn't.

Historians don't usually emphasize that however.

What was "The Nemesis"?

The Nemesis — Great Britain's Secret Weapon in the Opium Wars, 1839-60

Oh sorry, that is Chinese history.

Of course the really annoying thing about science fiction is that it tends to look toward "possible futures". Students should not be interested in the future though. They just have to make it.
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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The trouble with the "Black Perspective" is that there usually is not a lot of emphasis on science.

But if you really think about the history of the last 500 years it is a matter of who had the technology versus who didn't.

Historians don't usually emphasize that however.

What was "The Nemesis"?

The Nemesis — Great Britain's Secret Weapon in the Opium Wars, 1839-60

Oh sorry, that is Chinese history.

Of course the really annoying thing about science fiction is that it tends to look toward "possible futures". Students should not be interested in the future though. They just have to make it.
You apparently have not heard of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Mae C. Jamison (astronaut), Charles Drew (inventor of the blood bank), Emmett Chapelle (has 14 patents), and many more. How about Dorothy Vaughn who was one of the *human* computers for NASA and helped pub John Glenn into space. Katheryn Johnson also worked at NASA and so did Mary Jackson who was the first black female aeronautical engineer.

You have NO understanding of the black perspective at all if you think it does not include science. Unfortunately science fiction writes mostly about males and rarely writes about women in science although there are many women who are great scientific minds.
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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You apparently have not heard of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Mae C. Jamison (astronaut), Charles Drew (inventor of the blood bank), Emmett Chapelle (has 14 patents), and many more.
Oh! You can cherry pick a tiny number of "Black" people with science degrees as though they are representative.

I am impressed. Does that mean you are familiar with the Oreo Cookie perspective?

I guess I have to inform you that I AM BLACK! Not African American since that means the same thing as ****** NAZI as far as I am concerned.

What I find curious about Neil DeGrasse Tyson is that he was in the vicinity of the Twin Towers on 9/11 since he lived 4 blocks away. But what has he said about the physics of Collapsing skyscrapers in FIFTEEN YEARS? Do astrophysicists know anything about how skyscrapers deal with gravity?
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Oh! You can cherry pick a tiny number of "Black" people with science degrees as though they are representative.

I am impressed. Does that mean you are familiar with the Oreo Cookie perspective?

I guess I have to inform you that I AM BLACK! Not African American since that means the same thing as ****** NAZI as far as I am concerned.

What I find curious about Neil DeGrasse Tyson is that he was in the vicinity of the Twin Towers on 9/11 since he lived 4 blocks away. But what has he said about the physics of Collapsing skyscrapers in FIFTEEN YEARS? Do astrophysicists know anything about how skyscrapers deal with gravity?
So what if you are black, you do not represent all black people, and given your whackadoodle conspiracy issues you don't even represent a significant minority of them.
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: midwest
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So what if you are black, you do not represent all black people, and given your whackadoodle conspiracy issues you don't even represent a significant minority of them.
And Neil DeGrasse Tyson does!

ROFLMBAO

Get phetario to explain whar "Black Perspective" is. He brought it up. LOL
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