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Old 05-23-2017, 03:14 PM
 
Location: California
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The 2017 NatGeo Bee ended up with a poor decision by the 'expert' panel of judges. The final correct answer was given by winning kid as Kunlun Mts. and the other kid wrote Kunlun Shan.

The mean exactly same thing! If anything, Kunlun & Shan are both in the same language and that is how that mountain range is known to the locals. So that boy who lost, should have won or at least the judges should given to them another tie-breaking question.
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Old 05-24-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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I'm not familiar with the Nat Geo Bee, but presumably the contestants know in advance that their answers are expected to be in English, and that only "official" place names are acceptable, not historic names and not local names in indigenous languages.


If the rules are not made clear in advance then I would agree with you, but something tells me that the rules are clear.
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Old 05-24-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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I wonder how they would rule on usage of Mt. McKinley/Denali?
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Old 05-24-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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I wonder how they would rule on usage of Mt. McKinley/Denali?
The mountain's name is McKinley. Denali was the Alaskan Indian language name for it.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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I did get an email from NatGeo and they said the loser both wrote and said "Kun Shan". Because of missing letters, they ruled against him.

I only watched the tape of the event once, but I heard him say 'Kunlun Shan". Perhaps I misheard; perhaps not.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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The mountain's name is McKinley. Denali was the Alaskan Indian language name for it.
The name was officially reinstated as Denali in 2015
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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The name was officially reinstated as Denali in 2015
Oops, my bad, I thought it was the other way around.

In any case, it's whatever the official name is as of the Bee that would be correct.
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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One day I was showing some friends a Powerpoint of one of my experiences in Thailand, and they noted that in one frame I spelled a temple's name one way, and in the next frame I spelled it in a different way. And they jumped to the conclusion that one (or both) were wrong. But here's the problem -- there are not perfect translations of all words in one language to another language. For example, the word for canal in Thai is "klong" or "khlong".

I'm wondering if this spelling bee issue is similar?
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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I did get an email from NatGeo and they said the loser both wrote and said "Kun Shan". Because of missing letters, they ruled against him.

I only watched the tape of the event once, but I heard him say 'Kunlun Shan". Perhaps I misheard; perhaps not.
If they have the written answer and it is incorrect, it seems hard to find an issue here.
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Old 05-24-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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My kid competed in this but never got as far as the national finals.

I guess they are telling you that he left out one of the syllables when he said and/or wrote the word. When the original word is written in a different alphabet, the spelling would have to be a transliteration and therefore, multiple spellings should be acceptable, but maybe in this case, he left out part of the name. Very nice that the competition officials sent you back a response.
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