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Log in instructions, flow charts, other elementary stuff. She's a Librarian so does have a schedule of when she sees each class.
No, Maryland unions aren't stronger. They're only allowed, by state law, to negotiate salaries and working conditions. School supplies as well as class size are not considered working conditions.
The particular system always has trouble with supplies. We'd run out of toilet paper for the restrooms (yeah, that's sort of redundant) in March or April every year. I had to buy paper for the last quarter more years than not for my 31 or so years.
Sounds like they need to stand up for themselves. If I was dinged on my eval for not providing required hard copies when the district did not provide paper, there would be good cause for a grievance.
Sounds like they need to stand up for themselves. If I was dinged on my eval for not providing required hard copies when the district did not provide paper, there would be good cause for a grievance.
C'mon now, it's for the children. Wait, that's not the motto any longer. They had to get rid of Children Come First when the elementary school porn issue surfaced. I don't know what it is now.
Nothing will happen. The Association has been in the bag for decades.
Some of the things are ridiculous that school classrooms insist on having new, and that can be seen in the boxes and boxes of used crayons, markers, colored paper, rulers, scissors, etc. that go in the garbage or to charity at the end of every year. THOSE things don't have to be bought new, and shouldn't be in school districts struggling with $$.
This!^^^
I very much agree that teachers should never be obligated to buy classroom supplies. Unless it's something like small gifts or treats for the students. But when a teacher makes a mile-long list, with obscene quantities of each item, that are brand-specific (kickbacks for the school district?), that's when I smell a rat . Especially when the supplies are communal, which doesn't help students. It only enables carelessness and waste---the very things we lambaste politicians for.
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I don’t how they can require hard copies, not supply paper, and then hold it against the teacher. What if it isn’t in the teacher’s budget? I’ve never heard of such a thing. (I’m not arguing, just genuinely curious). This is an example of something that would be addressed (at minimum) by my union and I am assuming MD unions/associations are stronger, no?
There was a year when I was in Prince Georges County, Maryland teaching when we were given 1 ream of paper per quarter. That was sometime around 1980. I hate to think that is still going on.
There was a year when I was in Prince Georges County, Maryland teaching when we were given 1 ream of paper per quarter. That was sometime around 1980. I hate to think that is still going on.
We ran out of soap last year. Sure the teacher can bring their own and keep a stash, but that doesn’t help the kids. Goodness I can only imagine the issues if there was no TP. After about a week of no soap it magically appeared, but it was purchased out of pocket by someone. I’m not sure who. Thankfully, most, the kids were ok with hand sanitizer. None of the parents, that I’m aware of, donated soap.
Wow! While I understand the burden inadequate supplies put on everyone, I won't sympathize with teachers who make ridiculous supplies lists in the first place. I also believe that schools and teachers should be required to adapt. So, when you don't have something, make it yourself, make do with something else, or do without. For example, when you can't get fancy paperboard for cutting out shapes, cut them out of empty boxes or even old newspapers. Or even take turns drawing them on the chalkboard. You'll still learn shapes just the same.
Plus, it's a generational thing. Today's parents grew up in the time when all supplies were individual, and teachers required reasonable quantities of them. That is, as much as needed for the first week, rather than the entire school year, and having them on your person at all times was assumed. The list for a lower-elementary grade probably looked something like this.
* 2 pens
* 2 pencils
* notebook for every subject
* eraser
* ruler
THAT'S IT
So when today's teachers put together mile-long supplies lists, I don't blame the parents for balking at the lists. Now, when a school can't even provide things like soap or toilet paper, that's you got a serious problem.
We ran out of soap last year. Sure the teacher can bring their own and keep a stash, but that doesn’t help the kids. Goodness I can only imagine the issues if there was no TP. After about a week of no soap it magically appeared, but it was purchased out of pocket by someone. I’m not sure who. Thankfully, most, the kids were ok with hand sanitizer. None of the parents, that I’m aware of, donated soap.
Teachers just need to stop buying the soap and TP if the school runs out. Couple of kids come home with dirty underwear and tell their parents the "school is out of soap and TP" and there will be **** to pay in the local news the next day. No superintendent would survive long if they didn't correct it.
Interesting, how come schools don't just add on the fee and buy the common supplies like toilet paper, soap and copypaper?
Doesn't even prisoners get soap and toilet paper from the state in america btw? Because it's kind of ironic if prisoners are afforded something while the next generation of children aren't :P
Teachers just need to stop buying the soap and TP if the school runs out. Couple of kids come home with dirty underwear and tell their parents the "school is out of soap and TP" and there will be **** to pay in the local news the next day. No superintendent would survive long if they didn't correct it.
I agree.
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. Especially when the supplies are communal, which doesn't help students. It only enables carelessness and waste---the very things we lambaste politicians for.
