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Old 08-25-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I stopped for a schoolbus with his red flashers on today, and later realized it was an empty but (except for driver) making a left turn into the schoolyard at the end of the day.

No children were anywhere around, not on the bus, not waiting for the bus, nada.

Are bus drivers allowed to use their flashers to give themselves right of way to make turns like that? Aren't the flashers just for when kids are getting on or off the bus?
The only way a school bus lights can be flashing red is if the bus driver activates the the lights and then opens the door. If he was driving with his stop lights on and door open, he should be drug tested immediately. Because something is seriously wrong with that bus driver. Driving like that would also cause damage to the bus equipment. Since the stop arm is not designed to be extended while the bus is being driven. That bus driver is a serious danger. If you see it happen again try to get a picture or video of it, and turn it over to the police.

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Old 08-26-2017, 01:18 PM
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Location: Big Island of Hawaii
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he was stopped in the road to make his left turn; I saw the red stop signs out.

I don't think he's under the influence of anything but ego.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:45 AM
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Just call the transportation office of the school district....usually on tape. Inew drivers will make mistakes like that....he may have forgotten it was on, after waiting for a train...believe me, you get really focussed looking down the track. If that is the worst thing you saw this week, you need to get out more...or go spend five minutes in the hallway if the junior high. FedEx can hire criminals, school districts usually don't.
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Old 08-31-2017, 04:43 AM
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um, train?
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Old 08-31-2017, 02:28 PM
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Yeah, school buses are required to stop at all train tracks, and put out the arm, so the door is going to be opened. Usually, there is some one behind you, who starts honking their horn, and you need to do a quick visual down a few sets of tracks, both ways...keeping in mind that a 50 mph train covers 75 feet per second...and then you proceed, and it is not unheard of for people to proceed before closing their door and killing the red lights and arm. I was more concerned about the 17 yo Salvadoran putting his hands on the 13 yo girl in 8th grade science class.
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Old 09-01-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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I never understood the purpose of stopping and looking through the door to see if a train is coming. If you can't see a train coming through the windows on the door, opening the door itself won't help that much.
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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he was stopped in the road to make his left turn; I saw the red stop signs out.

I don't think he's under the influence of anything but ego.
Well he is damaging the bus's safety equipment and driving recklessly. There must be some reason for his bizarre behavior.
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Old 09-05-2017, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I never understood the purpose of stopping and looking through the door to see if a train is coming. If you can't see a train coming through the windows on the door, opening the door itself won't help that much.
It's an additional safety precaution, so the bus driver can hear if a train is approaching. The bus driver's view of the train could be blocked by other vehicles, another train, or whatever. By requiring the bus driver to stop, open the door, look both ways, and listen for the train, he can be relatively certain that no train is coming. If an individual driver is not paying enough attention and drives into the path of a train, that driver will pay the price. If a school bus driver is not paying enough attention, and drives into the path of a train, 50 kids will pay the price. So that's the reason that bus drivers, and some other commercial vehicle drivers must take additional safety precautions.
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: East of the Blue Ridge
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Let's be realistic here. How many seconds did you lose because a school bus had it's flashers on in order to get through the intersection?
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:42 PM
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Location: Big Island of Hawaii
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1) not an intersection, making a left turn from the highway into a driveway.

2) not just me, every car on the highway had to stop. I'd guess that he does this every day. So, hundreds of people a year stop for 30 seconds, just because this driver thinks he shouldn't have to wait to make a turn like everybody else?

3) What other bad habits does this driver engage in? He's probably one of the buses that drive right down the middle of our narrow, unstriped roads and refuse to let other drivers pass even when children are not involved (I see this regularly). Is somebody on this kind of power trip a good influence on the children he drives?

4) enough people ignore red flashers on school buses when they are actually loading or offloading kids. What kind of message does this send to other drivers? That flashers are just for the bus driver's convenience? Why should anybody ever stop for them?

5) how did trains even get into this discussion? There are no trains on the island--except in the train museum. There are no tracks to cross anywhere.
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