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Old 09-06-2017, 08:50 PM
 
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Illinois high school implements gender-neutral dress code | Daily Mail Online

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A high school in Illinois has completely modified their dress code to promote body-positivity and self expression, making it 100 per cent gender-neutral and allowing clothing that was previously banned, like leggings and tank tops.
Do you think this is a good idea?
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Arkansas
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I don't know, but I don't believe in "body shaming". Having a dress code is not shaming anyone.




If they want to be gender neutral, fine.


But telling students "your privates must be covered at school" isn't shaming them about their bodies. We all have to have respect for other people. Nobody wants to see someone's but crack when they are wearing pants that ride too low in the back. Wearing a bikini top to school isn't appropriate either. We have to have some standards here. It's not shaming people to have standards.
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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I believe in gender neutrality. Bed sheets with holes cut out for everyone. Teachers included.


Just wait. Some nutcase school will see this post and actually think it's a great idea. Just need to add the beads and flowers in all the kid's hair.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Interestingly, that is my kids old high school.

Here is the dress code itself rather than an article from the daily mall. I will be interested to see how this plays out.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/site/Defa...px?PageID=1381


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Dress​ ​Code
Evanston Township High School expects that all students will dress in a way that is appropriate for the school day or for any school sponsored event. Student dress choices should respect the District’s intent to sustain a community that is inclusive of a diverse range of identities. The primary responsibility for a student’s attire resides with the student and their parent(s) or guardian(s). The school district is responsible for seeing that student attire does not interfere with the health or safety of any student, that student attire does not contribute to a hostile or intimidating atmosphere for any student, and that dress code enforcement does not reinforce or increase marginalization or oppression of any group based on race, sex, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, cultural observance, household income, or body type/size. Any restrictions to the way a student dresses must be necessary to support the
overall educational goals of the school and must be explained within this dress code.

1.​ ​Basic​ ​Principle:​ ​Certain​ ​body​ ​parts​ ​must​ ​be​ ​covered​ ​for​ ​all​ ​students​ ​at​ ​all​ ​times.
Clothes must be worn in a way such that genitals, buttocks, breasts, and nipples are fully covered with opaque fabric. However, cleavage should not have coverage requirements. All items listed in the “must wear” and “may wear” categories below must meet this basic principle.

2.​ ​Students​ ​Must​ ​Wear*​, while following the basic principle of Section 1 above:
● A​ ​Shirt​ (with fabric in the front, back, and on the sides under the arms), AND
● Pants/jeans​ ​or​ ​the​ ​equivalent​ ​(for example, a skirt, sweatpants, leggings, a dress or shorts), AND
● Shoes​.

3. Students​ ​May​ ​Wear​, as long as these items do not violate Section 1 above:
● Hats facing straight forward or straight backward. Hats must allow the face to be visible to staff, and not
interfere with the line of sight of any student or staff.
● Religious headwear
● Hoodie sweatshirts (wearing the hood overhead is allowed, but the face and ears must be visible to school
staff).
● Fitted pants, including opaque leggings, yoga pants and “skinny jeans”
● Pajamas
● Ripped jeans, as long as underwear and buttocks are not exposed.
● Tank tops, including spaghetti straps; halter tops
● Athletic attire
● Visible waistbands on undergarments or visible straps on undergarments worn under other clothing (as long
as this is done in a way that does not violate Section 1 above).
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: NoVA
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Interestingly, that is my kids old high school.

Here is the dress code itself rather than an article from the daily mall. I will be interested to see how this plays out.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/site/Defa...px?PageID=1381
Why even bother? I would also be interested in seeing how this plays out. Generally, and of course there are always exceptions, allowing students to dress in a manner such as described in that "dress code" often leads to a spiraling down of discipline - just like uniforms lead to less discipline problems. The thing is certain kids just seem to have a strong need to rebel, if there isn't a dress code to flaunt they will find something else.
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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The thing is certain kids just seem to have a strong need to rebel, if there isn't a dress code to flaunt they will find something else.
I've often thought that we do teenagers a disservice by taking away things for them to rebel against.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Who cares what they wear as long as all private parts are covered? Why is this even a controversy?
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Beehive State
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It says that breasts must be fully covered but then says that there isn't a cleavage coverage requirement. Who in the heck is going to decide what fully covered means, then? This could get messy very quickly.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Yet another reason to send kids to private schools, where the emphasis will be on education rather than Goofyspeak.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:46 PM
 
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Yet another reason to send kids to private schools, where the emphasis will be on education rather than Goofyspeak.
The school in question does have an emphasis on education.

https://www.niche.com/k12/evanston-t...l-evanston-il/

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/site/Defa...lexDataID=3153

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U.S. News & World Report released its "Best High Schools" rankings for 2016, placing Evanston Township High School (ETHS) at 13 in Illinois and 452 in the nation. The ranking, which includes selective enrollment high schools, reiterates ETHS’ placement in the top two percent of high schools in the country.


ETHS was awarded a gold medal ranking based on a comprehensive rankings methodology developed by U.S. News & World Report and a global nonprofit social science research firm. A four-step process determined the Best High Schools list, with the first three steps examining how well the schools serve all their students. The fourth step assessed the degree to which schools prepare students for college-level work.
https://www.eths.k12.il.us/site/Defa...lexDataID=3927

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On May 5, The Washington Post released its annual national list, "America's Most Challenging High Schools," ranking Evanston Township High School (ETHS) as 22nd in the state and in the 97th percentile in the country. ETHS maintained its position as one of the top schools at both the state and national level, and was the highest ranked school along Chicago’s North Shore.

The Post’s list ranks schools through a “Challenge Index” formula that uses a simple ratio: the number of Advanced Placement (AP), International Baccalaureate (IB) and Advanced International Certificate of Education tests given at a school each year, divided by the number of seniors who graduated that year. At ETHS, the “test-to-graduates” ratio is linked to Advanced Placement exams.

ETHS’s 2017 ranking can be explained by several factors: fewer students dropping out at ETHS, an increase in graduates, and more schools on the national list due to a greater effort across the country to promote AP participation. According to columnist Jay Mathews, who publishes The Post’s list each year, “there was a sustained increase in the number of schools that qualify through AP, IB, and Cambridge test participation, even though the vast majority of U.S. schools still do not make the list.” Nationally, groups like Equal Opportunity Schools have worked with school districts to promote near universal Advanced Placement participation among students.
My son went to ETHS some time ago and when he went to college he found that he was better prepared than many of the valedictorians of other schools. He was only in the 20% percentile at ETHS, but he was in the difficult science program that turned out many very distinguished graduates.

Astro Teller of Google X graduated from ETHS.
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