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This thread right here is why I feel deeply for teachers trying to teach today. I'm sorry you have to deal with this crap folks, really am. I feel as though critical thinking has simply evaporated from the ability list of people in many areas and they have no interest in anything other than what fills their confirmation bias.
My snowflake is right. You are wrong. I don't care about the facts, I'm yanking her from class and talking to your boss just because. I don't need to talk to you because when I was in third grade I was treated unfairly! Since things didn't go my way or the way I would of handled it 100% that makes me angry and you're wrong!
Really? When I was in school you couldn't look around without seeing other's papers. It would be very easy to read the kids around you without even trying if you wanted to. Remember those little one piece elementary desks? They were in neat rows, front of one touching the back of the one in front of it (so you couldn't lean back) and the side to side aisle spacing equal to the width of the desktop. I could easily sit in my desk and touch the students on all four sides if I wanted.
The teacher's typical expectation in elementary was that your left arm was curled up the side and over the top of your paper; right arm on the other side across the paper holding the pencil (wow unto those left handers in the room; some teachers would take the pencil out of the left hand and put it in the right, but that's another story). Head and upper body were supposed to be bent over covering the paper. Basically an almost impossible and very uncomfortable position for very long. Fortunately by junior high we got bigger desks spaced out more and they were less in a panic about cheating.
This kid is in 6th grade in a middle school, not an elementary school. For Student "A" to cheat off Student "B", B would have to leave her test paper (if it was a test) on the very edge of her desk so A could see the answers.
This thread right here is why I feel deeply for teachers trying to teach today. I'm sorry you have to deal with this crap folks, really am. I feel as though critical thinking has simply evaporated from the ability list of people in many areas and they have no interest in anything other than what fills their confirmation bias.
My snowflake is right. You are wrong. I don't care about the facts, I'm yanking her from class and talking to your boss just because. I don't need to talk to you because when I was in third grade I was treated unfairly! Since things didn't go my way or the way I would of handled it 100% that makes me angry and you're wrong!
Thanks for the tip my son had those skills I had him in martial arts at five. He was the Captain of the wrestling team and worked out with the German adult bundesliga (semi pro) wrestling and judo team by age 15. "stop looking at my paper or I will hit you so hard you will have an eidetic memory for the next year; that way you won't have to cheat anymore."
I also taught him not to tolerate bullying from anyone including teachers.
You think wrestling and karate are skills needed to counter cheating?!?!?!
This kid is in 6th grade in a middle school, not an elementary school. For Student "A" to cheat off Student "B", B would have to leave her test paper (if it was a test) on the very edge of her desk so A could see the answers.
Why are you assuming its single desks? Not a single classroom in my school has single desks. In fact of the dozens of schools I have taught in or had PD in only the very old ones had single desks.
Why are you assuming its single desks? Not a single classroom in my school has single desks. In fact of the dozens of schools I have taught in or had PD in only the very old ones had single desks.
Good For You! I was responding to someone who was talking about desks in an elementary school.
Because the teacher has nothing to gain by lying. The child OTOH does.
WOW....just WOW~!
Bias much?
I support this OP and her efforts, more parents need to be pro-active in the childs' schooling. I'm glad the daughter openly conveyed this allegation. Ohh wait...i forgot...kids are fibbers and should not be believed.....
This should not be pursued until the OP finds out what really happened.
True. But it seems that this teacher hates high achieving students, and hates the OP's daughter in particular. It is unlikely that this teacher will ever give the OP's daughter a fair chance. As I've said, I've had plenty of teachers in the past who hated high achieving students. Giving out 0's for disciplinary purposes was a favorite tactic of theirs. As another poster said later in this thread, giving 0's for disciplinary reasons defeats the purpose of giving grades, which is to assess whether or not the student knows the material.
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This is one incident; it's not even clear that it was a test. Th daughter has the rest of the year to make this up.
But if this teacher made up his/her mind that the OP's daughter is trouble, there is nothing that the OP's daughter can do to change the teacher's mind. Again, I've had teachers like that.
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Well, you pretty much implied so until that point. We know, you think you were oppressed.
I might not have worded it well. What I meant is that just because you or other posters had different experiences does not make my experience or the OP's daugther's experience invalid. Some teachers, such as may of the ones I had, discriminated against high achieving students. Keep in mind that students have only a relatively small sample of teachers, and it is not a random sample, since students only have teachers that were hired by 1 district over a relatively short period of time.
It's going to be a long three years for her in middle school if every issue with a teacher is handled by a request to change teachers.
Normally I would agree. But I think that this is an extreme case where the teacher is completely unable to treat the OP's daughter objectively.
Having said that, it still depends on how high the stakes are in 6th grade in the OP's district. Again, in my district, 6th grade was high stakes, since it determined who was in honors (and eventually AP) classes for the next 6 years. However, other posters said that 6th grade was meaningless in their district. If this is a district where 6th grade doesn't matter so much, then maybe it's best for the OP's daughter to tough it out for the year, since, like it or not, we have to deal with people that we don't like in the real world.
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