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Old 10-27-2018, 12:03 AM
 
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The OP hasn't told us if s/he's inquiring about a summer program, or a semester program, I just realized. A summer program would be easier to fund, with a couple of private sources and maybe some personal contributions from an extra part-time job, or something. A semester program would be pretty impossible to fund, AFAIK. It's not only the tuition, it's the airfare, as well.

It always seemed like fall/spring semesters were cheaper. The full time tuition would be the same. Students who attend summer school have to pay additional tuition for the part-time credits that they take for summer semesters when they attend their home school. If they study abroad for the summer, that's in addition to the full time expense where they can take 12-18 credits usually for the same cost in the fall/spring, if that makes any sense.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:09 AM
 
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Room and board and travel expenses are still unaffordable for a lot of students. Studying abroad is a racket and basically only for the wealthy.
You'd have room and board at the domestic school too. It depends. My kid's scholarship provided the housing. It was included. Food was extra but it was dirt cheap. We had to pay for transportation, but it wasn't any more expensive than the domestic fare needed to travel to the home school. However, it was one additional flight.

It's not for just the very rich. Many middle class students, attending public universities, spend a semester abroad in their junior year. It's become very, very common. Most of the major schools have foreign partner universities and many colleges have foreign campuses these days. You can attend Cornell in Qatar.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:29 AM
 
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Yes you become a Male Gigolo or a Female Escort in Europe. But then that's not really "free" is it....
Being a male gigolo is free ++
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Old 10-27-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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It always seemed like fall/spring semesters were cheaper. The full time tuition would be the same. Students who attend summer school have to pay additional tuition for the part-time credits that they take for summer semesters when they attend their home school. If they study abroad for the summer, that's in addition to the full time expense where they can take 12-18 credits usually for the same cost in the fall/spring, if that makes any sense.
Absolutely. I found this when I did a year program with my grad school. It was about twice as much to do a semester because I just had to pay the difference in living expenses while the summer was tuition + living expenses you wouldn’t have to pay at all. We actually had complaints that only a year was offered and since that time, they bought a building, created student housing, and now offer a semester program (which I think was unavailable previously due to lack of housing you could get for a semester). I imagine the difference in cost probably a little bit more than what they’d pay at the home campus, but not by much. It’s basically just transport to campus and housing.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Yup... thanks for the breath of fresh air!

as usual... the EDU forum is all hung up on 'conventional (USA) thinking'. Just like our USA failed EDU system (K-20). Semesters abroad... is NOT an international education .. more like a boondoggle.. 'experience' / Short term trip... get in.. get OUT! Working, living, integrating into society, volunteers (WORKING!) i.e. developing FUNCTIONAL relationships is a tad more along the lines of getting an international education. and YES... you can do this very low cost / likely free (If your time is not worth more than the profs)

Guess what?... the answers to Is there a way to study abroad for free? are BEYOND the categorized BOX of conventional thinkers and even farther beyond the box of conventional DOERS (US public schooled types...) "Show me and I MIGHT be able to emulate" vs... Just Do It! i.e get on with it!

Invention, Innovation, Paradigm shifts do NOT originate in the mind of 'followers'.

You want an international education...?

Just DO IT (which might mean getting a job, taking some risk, adapting to the culture you reside).

I know.. pretty scary

It is so refreshing to host international teachers and travelers and LEARN how edu WORKS (well) elsewhere in the world.
Hiring STEM internationally (for operations in many countries) has been an eye opener.

Yes, an international edu can be helpful.
The OP didn't say anything about an "international education". Only a study abroad opportunity. Summer study abroad, even semester abroad, aren't intended to be an "international education"; most programs are a semester (or summer) of language study. The point is simply that students have the benefit of living in language environment, thereby having an opportunity to gain fluency through daily interaction with native speakers, that they wouldn't have at home. That's all it is.

And they get to sight-see, perhaps learn a little of the history of the city they're staying in, and experience a few differences in culture. These summer and semester programs have never claimed to be an "international education".

A few students do gain enough fluency to be able to later return to the country, and work or volunteer, and live in the society as a local does, not as a foreign student in a bubble of other foreign students. For some, it can be a life-changing experience. For others, it's an introduction to a foreign culture, and to foreign travel.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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No, you can't study abroad for free. Nothing in college is free.
Finland is free.

I know some students trying to get scholarship to Finnish Unis for BA/BS and MS/MAs.

Also, Germany is quite affordable.

I know an American who graduated with SL debt for her BA and she needs an MA to do the job she really wants to do.

She doesn't want to increase her SL debt so she's shooting for Germany.


Shame on America. Not it should be free, but it also should not make someone a wage slave for decades or even the rest of their life.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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Shame on America. Not it should be free, but it also should not make someone a wage slave for decades or even the rest of their life.
And it's getting worse, not better.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:28 PM
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Oh boy. China. OK, it's important, if you're studying Chinese language or area studies. I could be wrong, but most kids hope for a summer (or semester) in Europe, somewhere. More info needed from the OP.

Summer programs in Romania and the Balkans are cheap. I actually got a tuition waiver from one in Romania, so all I had to do is come up with the airfare. (Yeah, ok, MQ, you can throw that back at me: "Oh boy. Romania. How underwhelming." Fair enough. )

What areas are you interested in, OP?
Hahaha, my daughter earned her BA's in Mandarin and Linguistics and is now working on her PhD in teaching Mandarin to native English speakers. She returned to live in Beijing for 15 months and taught English to the small children of wealthy Chinese people at a private school.

Before you laugh too hard, it might interest you to know that there are about 12,000 American students studying in China each year. We are intertwined with China whether we like it or not.

I wouldn't mind seeing Romania. I chose not to go to China myself but instead when she decided to bounce around Europe after her contract in China was up, I met her there.

I don't think a lot of people realize that during the last administration, Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were advocating for US students to study in China. It was on the White House website, IIRC.

While in China both for school and work, my dd did a lot of traveling. What amazed me is some of the breathtaking beauty of parts of the country that we don't normally get to see.

This was one place she visited while at school in Chengdu:

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...6e78313ce95caf
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Old 10-27-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Hahaha, my daughter earned her BA's in Mandarin and Linguistics and is now working on her PhD in teaching Mandarin to native English speakers. She returned to live in Beijing for 15 months and taught English to the small children of wealthy Chinese people at a private school.

Before you laugh too hard, it might interest you to know that there are about 12,000 American students studying in China each year. We are intertwined with China whether we like it or not.

I wouldn't mind seeing Romania. I chose not to go to China myself but instead when she decided to bounce around Europe after her contract in China was up, I met her there.

I don't think a lot of people realize that during the last administration, Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were advocating for US students to study in China. It was on the White House website, IIRC.

While in China both for school and work, my dd did a lot of traveling. What amazed me is some of the breathtaking beauty of parts of the country that we don't normally get to see.

This was one place she visited while at school in Chengdu:

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...6e78313ce95caf
China's huge, and has extremely varied topography. Chengdu borders on the Tibetan areas, and is interesting for "minority" cultural reasons, as well as for having easy access to spectacular scenery. I think it was the valley you linked here, that China was gung-ho on promoting as the "original" Shangri-La, for awhile after it was discovered. I don't know what came of that effort.

Many students don't get past their study HQ in Beijing, or Shanghai, or whatever major city they're in, though. I guess that can be a great cultural experience, too, as long as the air is breathable, but I'm not much for urban experiences, usually. Many of the programs in Germany are in colorful Bavarian cities with charming historical architecture, and spectacular scenery all around. The Chinese have been busy tearing down their historical architecture for the sake of "modernization". Still, it's the cultural and linguistic immersion experience that counts, on any study abroad program, so you're right; there's no reason to scoff at China.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:35 PM
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In Switzerland, if you marry a Swiss person and pledge 5 years of your life to working in Switzerland, you can become a doctor for free.
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