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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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All schools are different, and I can only speak for the school systems that I taught or administered in, and my experience was that teachers, counselors, or even administrators who recommended a student go on some type of drug would get called on the carpet, sometimes getting a formal letter of reprimand. There were times when we might advocate for, "You might want to have your son (or daughter) evaluated by a physician or psychologist", but that was typically as far as we would go. An educator giving actual medical advice is a recipe for a law suit.
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Old Yesterday, 01:48 PM
 
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Liberals.
Saying that about "liberals" would be about the same degree of accuracy as if I said conservatives prefer to beat their children.
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Old Yesterday, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Have read several articles/studies that attribute over-activity in kids to food additives and food allergies. Look to kids' food before prescribing drugs.

And imho, kids in school need a lot more time to run around outside or exercise inside to work off their healthy energy. Making them captive in their seats hour-after-hour is cruel.
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Old Yesterday, 01:58 PM
 
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The kids are drugged because that is the easiest way to control them. It is vastly mostly boys. Boys being boys. If the teachers/schools actually disciplined the kids as in earlier times (more than 50 years ago) then the parents would likely SUE everyone in sight. It also does not help that many school districts across the country have eliminated physical education and twice a day recess. Physical education and recess allows the steam in the kids to be let out. IMHO ADHA is simply boys being boys and school personnel preferring boys behave more like girls.
You are quite wrong.

There are clear differences in the brains of children with ADHD although the scans cannot yet be used to diagnose the condition.

https://www.understood.org/en/learni...SAAEgI_BPD_BwE

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0216105919.htm

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"The results from our study confirm that people with ADHD have differences in their brain structure and therefore suggest that ADHD is a disorder of the brain," added Dr Hoogman. "We hope that this will help to reduce stigma that ADHD is 'just a label' for difficult children or caused by poor parenting. This is definitely not the case, and we hope that this work will contribute to a better understanding of the disorder."
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Old Yesterday, 02:03 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Have read several articles/studies that attribute over-activity in kids to food additives and food allergies. Look to kids' food before prescribing drugs.

And imho, kids in school need a lot more time to run around outside or exercise inside to work off their healthy energy. Making them captive in their seats hour-after-hour is cruel.
The additives/sugar meme seems to have gone out of style. Allergies are the big rage these days among parents, but I never heard of them supposedly causing ADHD.

Retired pediatric nurse
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Old Yesterday, 02:09 PM
 
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Have read several articles/studies that attribute over-activity in kids to food additives and food allergies. Look to kids' food before prescribing drugs.

And imho, kids in school need a lot more time to run around outside or exercise inside to work off their healthy energy. Making them captive in their seats hour-after-hour is cruel.
While food sensitivities can make ADHD symptoms worse, they do not cause ADHD and medication is still needed.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/adhd-...-symptoms.aspx

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Much research has been done on the subject of a helpful diet for ADHD, but according to the Mayo Clinic, experts don't believe that foods actually cause ADHD. What some foods seem to do, however, is worsen ADHD symptoms or cause behavior that mimics the signs of ADHD in children.
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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Sorry but ADHD is NOT A MADE-UP DISORDER. It is real.

It was actually being diagnosed before there were drugs to treat it so it wasn't created to benefit pharmaceutical companies.
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Old Yesterday, 02:35 PM
 
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Big Pharma doesn't force feed anyone. Doctors and parents do.
Neither does El Chapo or did Pablo Escobar. Parents so not make the little speech about the evils of drugs and to avoid the street corner "doctors" pushing the stuff.
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Old Yesterday, 04:08 PM
 
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I would expect that if you had been a principal in recent decades that you would have a good know, at least for you own area.

But it certainly seems to me to be virtually "the rage" among American parents to have a kid or two with an alphabet label.

Do you have kids? I suspect you do not. There are children that have issues. You hear about it on CD because parents that have kids with issues have questions, and want to commisserate.


I have a kid with ADHD. Actually, he's a young man now. I wish you could have seen him before he was diagnosed, and before medication. Maybe you would've recognized that he needed help.


But probably not. You'd just say my kid lacked discipline or something like that.
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Old Yesterday, 04:35 PM
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In the United States, at least 9 percent of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical drugs. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5 percent. How has the epidemic of ADHD—firmly established in the U.S.—almost completely passed over children in France?

And that's just so called ADHD American schools push to drug even more kids for other stuff.
You might find this article interesting:
https://www.additudemag.com/is-europ...-than-the-u-s/
This is about meds: https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...thaff.26.2.450
"Per capita gross domestic product (GDP) robustly predicted use across countries, but the United States, Canada, and Australia showed significantly higher-than-predicted use. Use and spending grew in both developed and developing countries, but spending growth was concentrated in developed countries, which adopted more costly, long-acting formulations."
Plus much more.

I always feel that threads that are titled "why" are begging the question.
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