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Old Today, 08:52 AM
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No Katarina, you don't "got it." You don't "got it" at all. There are people with college degrees that would fail auto mechanics. By your definition that would mean college degrees are a lower level because someone couldn't do mechanics. What it means is people have different Knowledges, Skills, and Abilities. And I believe people should study and learn what they are talented at, not a one size fits none solution.

Just because there are computers in cars doesn't mean a mechanic is "learning computers" whatever that means. It takes less skill to read a code and replace the part than it did a few years ago to plug in a Sunscope and do a diagnostic off raw data.

Failing out of college doesn't mean someone is somehow less; that's not my prejudice, it's yours.
First, I didn't say the person was less. That's your interpretation of a "gotcha, Katarina"!

Of course we all have different skills, that's about 5th grade inspirational pep talk language. We all have learned that, well, at least most of us, except for the ones who think there should be a ditch digger track.

If you choose to become a nurse, you won't have the skills of an attorney.

But you know that, and you know that's not what I'm saying.

Maybe you don't know what it means to learn computers. Lots of people, like me, can use computers without really knowing a lot about the internal workings of same. You have to be a computer pro's pro like my spouse to really know computers. But that's just talk to distract and get me going in circles.
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Default And another factor is the speed of the job market changes!

And another factor is the speed of the job market changes!

Our oldest started college in 1999 studying Music Engineering. At the time graduates of the top programs received $100K job offers straight out of school. The technology relied heavily on physical recording studios and massive mixing boards. The cost of these were prohibitive so there weren't many Schools which offered degrees in that field. Univ of Miami, North Texas, Middle Tennessee, Berklee in Boston, and maybe a couple others on the West Coast. Plus, the hands-on element in the few college studios meant there weren't many students or graduates.

Two years later software takes over. You no longer needed a recording studio or mixing board, now you just needed a PC and a pre-recorded sound track - which could be recorded via PC inputs. Every college in the nation had PC's, the software was cheap, and now everyone could chase those few $100K job offers. Additionally, the dot-com bust hit the economy so the technology companies weren't hiring.

This son graduated Summa *** Laude from the top program in the country in 2003 into a non-existent job market for his skill set. A skill set that three to four years previous was a guarantee to a $100K job straight out of college!

Following a career re-direction, with its accompanying costs, he is now an Intellectual Property Attorney with a specialization in audio, sound reproduction, and electronics.

Similar story with our youngest son. He graduated college in 2004, also Summa *** Laude from a top school, with a degree in Computer Science. He landed a great job at IBM but 5 years later they outsourced his job to India. He could follow his job to India and work for India level wages with no repatriation assistance, or accept a lay-off.

He accepted the Lay-off, used the retraining component of the severance package for a two year Pre-Med Program at Harvard, worked in Research Labs at Stanford and Yale for three years, then entered Med School on a full ride scholarship. He is now a first year Pathology Resident. During his examination of all possible medical specialties he discovered that Radiology is a field which shows a likelihood of being outsourced to the least expensive regions of the globe. X-Ray Techs will be needed at all hospitals and clinics to take the shots and forward then to a Radiologist for review, but these films can travel electronically to anywhere on the globe for this review!

All HS graduates need to be aware of the likelihood they will have multiple careers during their working years with ever changing requirements and knowledge. Even hands-on Trades Careers are not exempt! Just look at what has happened in the Surveying Industry within the past decade! Instead of 3-6 man crews with transits, targets, measuring tapes, and stakes; surveying is now being done by one man crews using GPS receivers.
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