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Old 03-01-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Why not Americans unite make US colleges affordable?
In yesteryear, this would be the natural result..

Tuition and costs rise, students protest - boycott - find other alternatives. and hold Universities accountable!!!

But not so in the 'coddled' USA.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...n-mind/399356/

Momma (Daddy or grand-pappy) is paying for college and their dearest child even gets Health Care to age 26!!!(USA mandated) (kids don't have clue of their true cost, or how they are burdening parents, and letting institutions milk them dry.) of money, time, and intellect.

There are so many other 'better options' that prepare our youth to meet adulthood,

No college loans required.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:16 PM
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Not enough to make it statistically meaningful, I would assume.
I think it was last year when I read in the papers about 40,000 foreign students in the Philippines, I would think Ateneo De Manila University and De La Salle University would get bulk of American students. They are a bit pricier but I guess they are still in the top 1000.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:47 PM
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Why not Americans unite make US colleges affordable?
We should unite to abolish college student loan. It distorts market forces. Once that is gone, economics come into play to find the true price of education -- one based not on what schools dictate as their price but also on what parents can actually afford.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:43 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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We should unite to abolish college student loan. It distorts market forces. Once that is gone, economics come into play to find the true price of education -- one based not on what schools dictate as their price but also on what parents can actually afford.

I advocate,
1) Set the price of EDU on What the value of the education major and achievement level is worth TO THE STUDENT (not the parent).

If momma pays for college, momma will probably take a boomerang adult child back under her wings, and thus the EDU / majors / training is all for naught.

Only in USA:
  1. Can you attend school for 16 - 20 yrs... THEN find out your major is outdated, has no employment opportunities, or you don't like it, or you can't DO it..
  2. Does the EDU system ROB you of dollars and not deliver a product. (Go hire a few recent grads... )
  3. USA college can keep selling non-valuable degrees (for HIGH prices)
  4. Do Universities fall head-over-heels' to embrace "Bring on the revenue to hxll with the content or value".
  5. If they offer it... some foolish Student (or more foolish parent) will pay.
  6. TA's teach the classes, profs are too 'important' to do that. (and they get by with it... tenured)
  7. Over 75% of USA STEM grads will leave their field within 5 yrs of graduation. (that is a waste of time, talent, training in many situations)
Most other countries are far more strategic in utilizing academic and student intellect to build their country's leadership / well-being.
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Old Yesterday, 07:00 AM
 
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Student loans are 100% optional and avoidable. Have you factored in the cost of a young, inexperienced 18 year old living abroad by themselves? You believe that's cheaper than living at home, doing two years at community college, working a job, and paying cash for the remaining two years or using tuition reimbursement?

Just fly off to the Philippines?
This was my thought. Save money by attending a community college. After that is completed, the young student at 20 may have a better idea where to go next to finish the bachelor's.

Even though "studying abroad" is more popular among American college students than it was years earlier, there are still plenty who have no interest in going overseas to study.

Here is another detail to consider. Unless something is very different these days and I am not sure how it apples to other industries inside the US, an American will need a degree from an accredited US college to work in the federal government.
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Old Today, 10:49 PM
 
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This was my thought. Save money by attending a community college. After that is completed, the young student at 20 may have a better idea where to go next to finish the bachelor's.
That makes sense. When I was in college, the 'kids' who most had their act together were fresh out of the military.

An alternative theory I have, and I think I would do it given a time machine, is four years of community college, no degree. I'm rather unconvinced of the value of a modern bachelor's degree and would rather get an education. The idea here is to go to a junior college with no intention of receiving a degree there and instead picking up 4 years of useful classes. Spanish, calculus, welding, jazz band, basically anything that's a skill.

Afterwards, figure out what you want to do for the rest of your life. It certainly would be cheaper and more useful than a lot of the degrees that children of friends of mine were getting in the UC system.
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