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Old 01-17-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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Unless the student has a disability, they're not allowed to use a calculator on the STAAR test.

These are harder than I thought they would be. The STAAR is an assessment that is used to decide if a student can progress to the next grade, although if they fail, teachers can intervene and promote the student if they feel he/she is ready.

Or, frankly, almost all of them are promoted if they will attend a summer school session, whether they succeed at that or not.

BUT STILL. This is the level of ability that is expected of an 8th grader in Texas. With no calculator.

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:16 PM
 
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These are largely kitchen math questions, relying on an ability to do four-function math with a few decimals. The graphing ones are fairly simple as well, assuming basic geometry has been taught.

All require careful reading to make the correct approach and calculate the right answer. That's the hard part.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:28 PM
 
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These are largely kitchen math questions, relying on an ability to do four-function math with a few decimals. The graphing ones are fairly simple as well, assuming basic geometry has been taught.

All require careful reading to make the correct approach and calculate the right answer. That's the hard part.
In my opinion, the hardest part is doing the calculations by hand.

That's very time consuming.

As much as people rail and complain about education, honestly, I don't think when I was in 8th grade we had to pass a test with this type questions to be promoted to the next grade.

I can do them, and come up with the right answer, but these questions are harder than I expected the 8th grade STAAR to be.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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In my opinion, the hardest part is doing the calculations by hand.
If you can't do math by hand, you have no business using a calculator. Especially for students, it's a tool, not a crutch. Once into levels of math where the simple calculations are not the part being learned, it's a different matter.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:12 PM
 
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If you can't do math by hand, you have no business using a calculator. Especially for students, it's a tool, not a crutch. Once into levels of math where the simple calculations are not the part being learned, it's a different matter.
I don't know how to respond to you, except to say these are more difficult questions for an 8th grade exam than I think most people realize are expected of 8th grade students.

Considering the constant whining about the education system. These questions seem quite difficult.
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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I don't know how to respond to you, except to say these are more difficult questions for an 8th grade exam than I think most people realize are expected of 8th grade students.

Considering the constant whining about the education system. These questions seem quite difficult.
I don't think they are. They are certainly not simple, but they are not killer-hard, either. It really is all in the approach; it's easy to pick the wrong method to solve them, do some perfectly valid calculations, and end up with a completely wrong answer to the question.

By 8th grade, students are well past proving they can do the mathematical operations and expected to be learning how to apply math to actual problems. These questions are pretty good examples of that, and need understanding of the logic and context to apply the (relatively straightforward) math tools.
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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The questions seem about the right difficulty to me.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Totally normal questions for the grade.. The reading section isn’t that difficult either. I don’t see a problem.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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Someone cherry picked the most difficult questions on the test. Someone go cherry pick the easiest ones for us and you will get a laugh. My point is that an average student should be able to easily answer enough questions to pass the test. Anyway, they teach math at a more accelerated level now than when I was in school and I could have answered these questions in the 8th grade.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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Someone cherry picked the most difficult questions on the test. Someone go cherry pick the easiest ones for us and you will get a laugh. My point is that an average student should be able to easily answer enough questions to pass the test. Anyway, they teach math at a more accelerated level now than when I was in school and I could have answered these questions in the 8th grade.
I completely agree.

I've seen the 6th grade STAAR, and it's nowhere in the ball park of this difficult.

I don't know what the experience of the other posters in this thread have with testing in Middle School , but this is surprisingly difficult.

I doubt, even with a calculator, the majority of high school graduates could come up with the correct answers to most of the math questions listed here.
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