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Old 06-22-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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Someone has just brought out a study here of why Asian students, especially Chinese, outperform everyone else in standardised tests and completely dominate selective high schools.

Wow, they found out they work harder, especially at home.

We needed a study to know that!!! Next some will decide we don't want to know this so let's stop the testing!

Asian students outperform not only because they study hard but because they are capable of retaining what they have studied. This is not true for some. Working harder does not automatically equal success for everyone. I'm five feet tall and no matter how hard I try stretching my limbs, I will never become six feet tall without some assistance. And even then I still won't be six feet tall.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Of them only Brown has any name recognition. there are lots and lots of little flaky schools out there that will offer nay sort of program students with loan money want to have. Some students will do fine at those little flaky schools because they would do fine anywhere, or even nowhere (self educating). most will end up selling shoes.

Maybe more and more schools will go this route though. we seem to be moving to using test scores as a far more meaningful measurement of achievement/ability than grades.
You donít think Reed and Sarah Lawrence have any name recognition?
Both are extremely well known.
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Old 06-22-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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The world is half full of below average folks. Nothing can change that and if you adjust the test so everyone is a star then the test is worthless.
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Old 06-22-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Been to school lately?

About everyone who 'shows-up' gets an A (Including college).

Pretty sad (for hiring managers who who like to get someone who is 'educated'. (showed initiative)

Once you hire them. Oops... too late.
I teach at a well respected uni, so I guess my students are fairly disappointed then. Usually about 1% fail my course every semester--of those who show; those who don't show, get dropped after two weeks' accumulated absences. Only about 7-10% earn A's--during a good semester. I suppose it depends upon the course though.

I'm not sure where you attend(ed), but I'd feel cheated if that's an accredited institution.
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Old 06-22-2019, 04:34 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You donít think Reed and Sarah Lawrence have any name recognition?
Both are extremely well known.
Ditto Antioch.
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Old 06-22-2019, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica, Ca
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Everyone gets a trophy!
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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everyone already does get A's:

1. Achiever.
2. A-hole.
3. Athlete.
4. A-student.
5. Autistic.
6. Apathetic.

depending upon WHO is doing the grading.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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"Google" is your friend. According to the kids I've talked to these days anyone using google can get an A.
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Old 06-23-2019, 04:45 AM
 
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This is kind of nonsense. The point of education is to attempt to maximize someone’s potential. Forest Gump isn’t going to get an 800 SAT Math score, go to Cal Tech, and be a star developer at Google. Forest can be educated to be a productive and contributing member of society. Forest achieving basic literacy and numeracy in a classroom of 80 IQ students is an “A” for Forest.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Everyone can’t get A’s for the same reason that everyone can’t get rich or become a rocket scientist.
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