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Old 03-04-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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If they finally learned great, if not oh well. Once they couldn't fit in the desk anymore they told them to leave.
You mean like Jethro Bodine from Beverly Hillbillies:

"I graduated highest in my class!

"....By a good two feet!"

That article was an amusing read. No one will be solving anything until who knows when, no accountability for anyone anymore. They can have it. Actually doing something about would have cries of "that's racist" in about a month if "black and brown" people were somehow affected. Logic and facts go out the window in politics.

I feel sorry for the kids, it's their futures. Guessing the young man in question may not have basic academic skills: "As we dig deeper into her son’s records, we can see in his first three years at Augusta Fells, he failed 22 classes and was late or absent 272 days." No questions about what the little genius was out doing those 272 days, as presumably no one asked or really cared?

The phrase I'm looking for: "cycle of poverty." End of story.
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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Not to split hairs, but that looks like a series done by a local Fox affiliate in Baltimore, which is separate from Fox News. I just don't want the "Fox News/Betsy DeVos Hater" crowd to get the wrong idea. The practice of schools standing by while kids fail is wrong no matter who does the reporting on it.
Right. I think it's totally worth reporting on - this is a HUGE problem in Baltimore, apparently. Terrible schools, most of them graduating the kids who didn't even come close to meeting required standards.

I was just trying to figure out what "Project Baltimore" was - a nonprofit agency, or what?

It's a series/mission of the local Fox News apparently to report on issues of interest to Baltimore.
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Old 03-04-2021, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Right. I think it's totally worth reporting on - this is a HUGE problem in Baltimore, apparently. Terrible schools, most of them graduating the kids who didn't even come close to meeting required standards.

I was just trying to figure out what "Project Baltimore" was - a nonprofit agency, or what?

It's a series/mission of the local Fox News apparently to report on issues of interest to Baltimore
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And I hope they continue to do so, because it will be swept under the rug by other network stations. These dismal failures created by policies that they laud they don't want advertised.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:05 PM
 
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Okay, finally, this makes sense.

Up until last year, Augusta Fells was graduating half the senior classes, even though they were failing abysmally. In 2019 2 were proficient in math, 2 in Language Arts, although the class was about 150 students.

Then, when FoxNews developed an investigative initiative called Project Baltimore and shone the light on this practice, they had to stop it.

Along comes Tiffany France's son, expecting to follow that same path of showing up the majority of days, and expecting to graduate, as of course he would. He's seen that's the pattern. That's enough for a diploma at Augusta Fells.

But this year, with the glare of Fox News spotlight on Augusta Fells for DOING this illegal practice, of graduating classes who hadn't passed anything, he's the first class that won't receive a diploma.

I would like to see criminal charges filed here. This school was getting 5.3 million for about 440 students, and almost 0 of them are getting an education.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/projec...u7ZhzFuAkZUEZI
Thank you ClaraC - for digging to the bottom of this. It absolutely does make sense now. I wish the media would cover this sort of thing with the actual history so that people can see what happened. Shame on the school for the past policy, but dang also shame on the mom for not looking at her son's report cards and asking questions!!
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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You know, I stopped myself from posting in this thread for a while, but the snide racist remarks are REALLY getting to me ...

Like "read the article, saw the pics," then a stupid graphic with "imagine my shock" ... I mean, seriously, mrKool, why don't you just come out and say, "Black people, they suck, they don't care about anything"? Because CLEARLY that is what you MEANT.

YES, the mother maybe should have been more involved in her kids' education -- but she's a single mom with 3 kids and she's working 3 jobs (despite all the racist imagery that tells us that black mothers are lazy and just live on welfare) -- GIVE HER A BREAK, as I bet you would some suburban white mother.

And YES, of course the kid should have paid more attention in school, blah blah blah ... but he's a KID, and even GOOD kids (yes, you racists out there, you can read that as "white middle class kids") do stupid things when they're teenagers.

The BIGGEST issue is, HOW ON EARTH DO THESE CRAPPY PUBLIC SCHOOLS GET TO KEEP GOING AND KEEP GETTING FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY WHILE TOTALLY FAILING THE POOREST OF POOR KIDS? Why on earth isn't THAT the issue, instead of "oh stupid black people who don't care about anything." It should be THE SHAME OF THIS NATION that education -- which is SUPPOSED to be "the great equalizer" -- is not the least bit "equal" in poor, particularly inner-city neighborhoods -- but somehow it's NOT the shame of the nation because of course it is MUCH easier to blame the families themselves.

Holy crap. I am white and NOT a bleeding-heart liberal by ANY means, but the snide racist comments in thread make me want to vomit.

So I ask the snide racist posters on C-D: How would YOUR kid do in the incredibly crappy Baltimore schools? EXTREMELY BADLY, I expect, for all your self-righteousness. Do you seriously think that black kids somehow can't learn? Because you are freaking IDIOTS if you think that. Look at programs that take them out of the crappy schools and put them into BETTER schools and see how they do, and your idiocy will be revealed (not that you will ever accept it).
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Old 03-05-2021, 03:26 AM
 
Location: On the edge
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You know, I stopped myself from posting in this thread for a while, but the snide racist remarks are REALLY getting to me ...

Like "read the article, saw the pics," then a stupid graphic with "imagine my shock" ... I mean, seriously, mrKool, why don't you just come out and say, "Black people, they suck, they don't care about anything"? Because CLEARLY that is what you MEANT.

YES, the mother maybe should have been more involved in her kids' education -- but she's a single mom with 3 kids and she's working 3 jobs (despite all the racist imagery that tells us that black mothers are lazy and just live on welfare) -- GIVE HER A BREAK, as I bet you would some suburban white mother.

And YES, of course the kid should have paid more attention in school, blah blah blah ... but he's a KID, and even GOOD kids (yes, you racists out there, you can read that as "white middle class kids") do stupid things when they're teenagers.

The BIGGEST issue is, HOW ON EARTH DO THESE CRAPPY PUBLIC SCHOOLS GET TO KEEP GOING AND KEEP GETTING FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY WHILE TOTALLY FAILING THE POOREST OF POOR KIDS? Why on earth isn't THAT the issue, instead of "oh stupid black people who don't care about anything." It should be THE SHAME OF THIS NATION that education -- which is SUPPOSED to be "the great equalizer" -- is not the least bit "equal" in poor, particularly inner-city neighborhoods -- but somehow it's NOT the shame of the nation because of course it is MUCH easier to blame the families themselves.

Holy crap. I am white and NOT a bleeding-heart liberal by ANY means, but the snide racist comments in thread make me want to vomit.

So I ask the snide racist posters on C-D: How would YOUR kid do in the incredibly crappy Baltimore schools? EXTREMELY BADLY, I expect, for all your self-righteousness. Do you seriously think that black kids somehow can't learn? Because you are freaking IDIOTS if you think that. Look at programs that take them out of the crappy schools and put them into BETTER schools and see how they do, and your idiocy will be revealed (not that you will ever accept it).
"Single mom of three". That is your big clue right there. If that observation makes me racist in your mind, okay.

p.s. - Baltimore schools are in the nationwide top 3 for $$/pupil funding ratios.
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Old 03-05-2021, 04:33 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Schools reflect the population they serve.
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:06 AM
 
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Anytime a student is absent from a class, the student's family receives an automated phone call at their listed number advising the missed time. If necessary, families may respond to the call by noting if the absence meets the criteria to be excused.

According to the article, this kid was late or absent 272 days in 3 years. That's almost a full year of not showing up, or showing up late. If Mom got the automated call, why did this behavior continue? To hear her say the school failed him (which they did) but absolve herself of any blame is pretty sad. I wonder how her other children are doing in school. It's pretty obvious from the mother's inattention to her son that education in that family is not a priority.

And while we are handing out blame, how about the kid himself? Where is the personal responsibility of the kid to show up for classes at the very least? I'm betting that even with bringing him back to the 9th grade, he probably only has a 3rd grade reading level and will continue to struggle.
Personal responsibility is so 19 and 20th century!

We are a nation of “victims”.

I see one potential outcome: a personal “education system failure injury” lawyer as a new specialty in legal profession.
Sue the taxpayers!
Wonder what the reward could be? A high school diploma? Or if it is an especially “egregious” case - a University summa *** laude distinction, perhaps to be awarded?
P.S. CD would not let me type in full the Latin honorary title- how funny is that?

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Old 03-05-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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"Single mom of three". That is your big clue right there. If that observation makes me racist in your mind, okay.

p.s. - Baltimore schools are in the nationwide top 3 for $$/pupil funding ratios.
Karen is an educator, so I think she has some sort of clue. I have experience in education too and subbed in a few schools in lower income neighborhoods that were really good. The key was having strong leadership that supported the teachers. I went to some that were horrible.

I have a friend who started her teaching career in a lower income school. We were still getting our master’s degrees then and she would literally come in crying sometimes because the administration was awful. They actually made her a section with all of the bad children that none of the other teachers in the department wanted. She was a brand new teacher. How does that help the children or the teacher? She’s since worked as a reading resource teacher (now district wide) and worked with a lot of struggling students successfully. She said the big factor was the support from the administration.
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