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Old 06-02-2022, 02:55 PM
 
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There are some people who live by going to college and getting loans and have no intention of graduating
As long as they can get a loan
My son had friend like that—
This doesn't last very long. There's a set dollar limit on how much one can borrow in federal student loans. You also have to be making progress on a degree and maintain a minimum GPA.
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Old 06-02-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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Well, there's the argument of "Why take algebra classes when your eventual profession doesn't involve anything more than basic math?"
algebra is basic math.
it doesn't get any more basic.
what job doesn't require algebra?
Life requires algebra
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:27 PM
 
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Well, there's the argument of "Why take algebra classes when your eventual profession doesn't involve anything more than basic math?"
Outside the STEM fields (and even within them, to some extent), people don't always work within a profession corresponding to their major field of study.

There is a paradox involved: Kids are told that a college degree is an imperative, yet they are also aware that the field of study is practically irrelevant. So then the only important thing is to get the piece of paper...not to actually learn anything in particular.

And then corporate HR policies conspire to make that a truth by making a degree--any degree--a requirement for hiring consideration regardless of the actual needs of the position.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:29 PM
 
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algebra is basic math.
it doesn't get any more basic.
what job doesn't require algebra?
Life requires algebra
Interestingly, I use algebra and geometry most extensively when I do blue collar "trade" work around the house--carpentry, plumbing, electrical, et cetera--but almost never when I'm doing "white collar" work.

I can put together a desktop computer without algebra, but I can't build the desk for it without algebra.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:30 PM
 
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algebra is basic math.
it doesn't get any more basic.
what job doesn't require algebra?
Life requires algebra
What job doesn't require algebra? Most of them? Heck, most of the drivers, planners/schedulers, mechanics, equipment operators, finance types, etc. etc. seem to get along just fine. Now basic arithmetic , sure. I'm not counting addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division as algebra.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:34 PM
 
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What job doesn't require algebra? Most of them? Heck, most of the drivers, planners/schedulers, mechanics, equipment operators, finance types, etc. etc. seem to get along just fine. Now basic arithmetic , sure.
they all use basic algebra.
A planner needs to calculate time and speed to destination, mechanics needs to figure out how to pick the right size part, finance types need to calculate interest and payment schedules.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:37 PM
 
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they all use basic algebra.
A planner needs to calculate time and speed to destination, mechanics needs to figure out how to pick the right size part, finance types need to calculate interest and payment schedules.
Sure, but when I went to school (OK, a long time ago) that wasn't classified as algebra. That was called basic arithmetic.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:40 PM
 
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Sure, but when I went to school (OK, a long time ago) that wasn't classified as algebra. That was called basic arithmetic.
Standard 9th grade basic algebra exercises.
Any word distance with time problems are standard algebra.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:42 PM
 
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they all use basic algebra.
A planner needs to calculate time and speed to destination, mechanics needs to figure out how to pick the right size part, finance types need to calculate interest and payment schedules.
Figuring out the right size part? That would involve a tape measurer not an algebraic formula. Also mechanics don't really figure out much like this. They take the part, go over the book - either print or digital, look up the part number, and order it. I know from working in a garage. My dad owns a garage.

Those in finance aren't sitting there calculating interest and payment schedules. Neither are accountants. They use software that does all of this for them. Former bookkeeper who never calculated those things. That's what Excel and numerous other software platforms are for.

Work smarter. Not harder.
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Old 06-02-2022, 03:45 PM
 
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Standard 9th grade basic algebra exercises.
Any word distance with time problems are standard algebra.
Been there, did that. Anyway, regardless of the terminology, some people struggle with the basics. Careers that require advanced math skills are probably not best suited to them. Trigonometry was my bane. I just couldn't grasp sine, cosine. etc.
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