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View Poll Results: Which would you take?
25% financial gain. Better pay, better insurance, more in your school budget, etc. 5 71.43%
25% better working conditions. Better parent involvement, better admin support, more useful PD, less high stakes testing 2 28.57%
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Old 10-20-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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Old 10-20-2022, 06:39 AM
 
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As a freshly retired person, I still get out and sub. I'm young enough I could keep doing it but I don't need to. So I guess the question came to me, "Which would make you seriously consider teaching full time again? Is it the money or the working conditions?" For me it's the latter.
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Old 10-20-2022, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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both

Just to clarify, I don't think it has to be all one or the other.

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Old 10-20-2022, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I would take the first. Didn't have a problem with any of the issues in the latter choice, except for lack of parental involvement with some kids. Actually, the pay and insurance aren't bad either.
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Old 10-20-2022, 09:56 AM
 
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I would take the first. Didn't have a problem with any of the issues in the latter choice, except for lack of parental involvement with some kids. Actually, the pay and insurance aren't bad either.
It wasn't till I retired that I discovered how terrible my insurance was with my district. Granted, I haven't been retired long so let's see, but I pay a lot less now and get a lot more. My max out of pocket went down, too. Before COVID I had spoken to an advisor and if I had retired at that time, the discrepancy would have been even greater.

My wild guess is that there are a lot more retirees in the state than there are teachers in my local district, so those numbers allowed them to negotiate a better rate, benefits, etc. It could be too that my local district dropped the ball to some degree. I don't know, but to anybody who's hanging on, working the job because he/she thinks the insurance is better while working, I'd verify that assumption.
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Old 10-24-2022, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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I'd love more parental involvement, but ultimately I'm not the boss of them.

At this point it comes down to money. Inflation is making low end jobs competitive with teaching. They are not giving us raises, why stay? When I can make as much driving Uber or bartending, what's the point?
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Old 10-24-2022, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I'd love more parental involvement, but ultimately I'm not the boss of them.

At this point it comes down to money. Inflation is making low end jobs competitive with teaching. They are not giving us raises, why stay? When I can make as much driving Uber or bartending, what's the point?
Well, for some of us it would be the love of the profession.
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Old 10-24-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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Well, for some of us it would be the love of the profession.
Admins love hearing that.

Passion = lower pay
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Old 10-24-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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IME some people feel that the profession doesn't love them back.

But also, everybody has an idea of what they want it to be like. I worked with an asst principal for a few years. He was probably in his 40s had taught and coached, then moved into admin. I thought he really had a knack for it. Then one day over the summer, he posted on Facebook that he had come to the realization that he just didn't have what it takes. HUH? So he left education and now works in real estate. Too bad for the school, but he wasn't satisfied with his performance I guess.
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Old 10-24-2022, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Admins love hearing that.

Passion = lower pay
I felt that way as a teacher. I loved my profession. I was proud of it.

But you think not loving your profession is wise?
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