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Old 10-28-2022, 10:53 AM
 
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parents dont help
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Old 10-28-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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Removing music/arts from public school curriculum certainly hasn't helped given the stats of much higher performance in achievement testing with that correlation.
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Old 10-28-2022, 12:00 PM
 
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Removing music/arts from public school curriculum certainly hasn't helped given the stats of much higher performance in achievement testing with that correlation.
Private schools have always been weak in the arts, though, if they had any arts programs at all, yet their grads test well on the SAT's.
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Old 10-28-2022, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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My daughters were taught very flaky methods of math calculations, largely by the book "Everyday Mathematics". We taught them at home by the old methods, that I hope will stick with them. Go to Youtube and look up Inconvenient Truth by M. J. McDermott. She shows the absurdity of the methods this book teaches. Then see response videos by James Blackburn Lynch, a college math professor. McDermott makes perfect sense from her first moment to her last. The professor babbles for 2-3 minutes before coming close to a point of any sort. Another reason college often gets a bad rap.

My parents were both teachers and my dad a principal. Mom mostly taught math and Dad history and English. They saw the beginnings of flakiness in education and it worried them a lot. I am sure they are both rolling over in their graves now.
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Old 10-28-2022, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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parents dont help
Right on with that.

My parents were teachers who both dealt with the decline in discipline before they retired. I recall my youngest years, when Mom would call parents about problems with their kids. 99% of parents then at least tried with their kids and she could see some improvement. Some parents in our town had little education and lived hard because of it. They wanted their kids to have a better chance, so they supported the teachers. The kids appreciated that later on. She gave up by her last year or 2. Most parents she called then argued that "my kids don't do stuff like that". One of those unsupportive parents eventually opened his eyes when he went to bail his son out of jail for some crime. A police officer managed to talk with him. He said "I see now. I'll let him stay here for the night and learn something.". Sorry it had to come to that.
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:19 PM
 
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I'm a manager with 5 direct reports all with ages ranging from 27-35, so younger millennials. Of those 4 have a degree, one has a master in Accounting. The work we do requires significant math skills and they are all doing just great. Like every other generation, what people get out of the educational system depends on their interest and dedication to learning.
Exactly - and really you should never stop learning.
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Old 10-28-2022, 05:26 PM
 
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Private schools have always been weak in the arts, though, if they had any arts programs at all, yet their grads test well on the SAT's.
The students probably had a lot of extra-curricular exposure to the arts, usually through private lessons, classes, etc.
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Old 10-28-2022, 05:27 PM
 
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My daughters were taught very flaky methods of math calculations, largely by the book "Everyday Mathematics". We taught them at home by the old methods, that I hope will stick with them. Go to Youtube and look up Inconvenient Truth by M. J. McDermott. She shows the absurdity of the methods this book teaches. Then see response videos by James Blackburn Lynch, a college math professor. McDermott makes perfect sense from her first moment to her last. The professor babbles for 2-3 minutes before coming close to a point of any sort. Another reason college often gets a bad rap.

My parents were both teachers and my dad a principal. Mom mostly taught math and Dad history and English. They saw the beginnings of flakiness in education and it worried them a lot. I am sure they are both rolling over in their graves now.
Montessori and Dewey were also "flakes."
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:10 AM
 
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Sounds like it was YOU and your peers that failed, not the system.
I'd say the OP's parents.
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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The nuclear waste disposal issue has never been resolved. The GMO food issue is very complex. That GMO's can "feed the world" is what their purveyors want the public to believe. They were a major boondoggle in India, because traditional farmers couldn't afford to buy new seeds every year as required by the GMO companies, nor the weed-control chemicals that were a required part of the package. The result was a corporate takeover of farmland, that met tremendous resistance. And some of the GMO's aren't safe; they have pesticides built into them, that the companies holding the patents claim are safe for human consumption. That's the reason they're banned in Europe.

An additional problem is, that the companies holding the patents for GMO seeds can sue neighboring property owners, if GMO seeds blow onto their property and result in GMO plants infiltrating the property. In this way, they're able to take over more land, displacing traditional farmers. It's hugely political. India, Mexico with its prized heirloom varieties of corn, and other developing countries don't want US corporations taking over their agricultural sector.
Your flawed "corporation-is-a-4-letter-word" ideology belongs in P&OC.
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