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Anyone have any experience via their childs school with this? I'd like to know which schools to avoid!
CNN) -- More than 200,000 children were spanked or paddled in U.S. schools during the past school year, human rights groups reported Wednesday.
"Every public school needs effective methods of discipline, but beating kids teaches violence, and it doesn't stop bad behavior," wrote Alice Farmer, the author of a joint report from Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union. "Corporal punishment discourages learning, fails to deter future misbehavior and at times even provokes it."
Corporal punishment in schools remains legal in 21 U.S. states and is used
frequently in 13: Missouri, Kentucky, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida, according to data received from the Office for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Education and cited in the report.
When I head about this report on the news, I thought back to my junior high days. I remember Mr. White, a math teacher, had a wooden paddle with holes in it. I can remember being paddled a few times. boy, have times changed . .
So if violence begets violence, why put criminals in prison where there is nothing but violence? I say good for the teachers who did this.
My parents spanked me as a child (okay bad example ) but it's all in the "delivery". Over excessive punishment is not good but if you need to give a child a spanking to keep them from being a$$es then it should allowed
When I head about this report on the news, I thought back to my junior high days. I remember Mr. White, a math teacher, had a wooden paddle with holes in it. I can remember being paddled a few times. boy, have times changed . .
I remember this as well. I would prefer a child went to a school where it was still in use... seems a touch of discipline is missing these days... boy am I going to get heat for this!
If you are unable to reason with a child or put the effort into working out the issues with the childs behaviour then you simply should not be in the teaching profession.
I am a parent who does not use violence against my children and they are beautifully behaved, all it takes is thought and positive influence,not the quickest easiest route which is what the violence of corporal punishment is.......ummmm could this be turned into an argument of Americas use of war without trying to negotiate first ummmmmmm I'll save that for another day.
Anyway another telling issue in the report is the following quote: (from CNN)
"""In addition, special education students with mental or physical disabilities were more likely to receive corporal punishment,"""
I believe teachers who use corporal punishment are not up to their job and the work it takes to guide children and influence them on the right paths. Other issues the report raises are that it is often done because the school afford the more sensible options which is disgusting.
I do believe in corporal punishment, ...but from the parents, not the school. I just never liked the idea of anyone else physically disciplining my son. Thankfully, that particular issue never came up. His elementary school principal did spank, but said he would only do it if the parents' gave permission. I think that position was reasonable. Schools desperately need to be able to exercise discipline, but again, corporal punishment by someone other than the parent makes me uncomfortable. Just my .02.
Anyone have any experience via their childs school with this? I'd like to know which schools to avoid!
CNN) -- More than 200,000 children were spanked or paddled in U.S. schools during the past school year, human rights groups reported Wednesday.
"Every public school needs effective methods of discipline, but beating kids teaches violence, and it doesn't stop bad behavior," wrote Alice Farmer, the author of a joint report from Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union. "Corporal punishment discourages learning, fails to deter future misbehavior and at times even provokes it."
Corporal punishment in schools remains legal in 21 U.S. states and is used
frequently in 13: Missouri, Kentucky, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida, according to data received from the Office for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Education and cited in the report.
If you live in one of the states listed, as I do, I highly recommend that you check out the data supplied. I think you might be surprised.
I discovered that out of 382 districts in Texas with data reported that ALL data was in increments of 5. Does that mean that only 5 at a time recieved corporal punishment? Or does it mean the numbers are not accurate?
When added up, the total number reported was 21,440 which is less than half what the human rights organization reports it says - 49,197. Where does their number come from?
I discovered that one tiny district reportedly had 1160 incidents of corporal punishment. They only have an enrollment of about 3200 students in the entire district, which only has 8 campuses total. So, we are to believe that just under half of their student body has been subjected to corporal punishment? Or that the upper grades have received numerous each?
It seems we can't even take 'facts' as facts anymore. This report holds zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
If you live in one of the states listed, as I do, I highly recommend that you check out the data supplied. I think you might be surprised.
I discovered that out of 382 districts in Texas with data reported that ALL data was in increments of 5. Does that mean that only 5 at a time recieved corporal punishment? Or does it mean the numbers are not accurate?
When added up, the total number reported was 21,440 which is less than half what the human rights organization reports it says - 49,197. Where does their number come from?
I discovered that one tiny district reportedly had 1160 incidents of corporal punishment. They only have an enrollment of about 3200 students in the entire district, which only has 8 campuses total. So, we are to believe that just under half of their student body has been subjected to corporal punishment? Or that the upper grades have received numerous each?
It seems we can't even take 'facts' as facts anymore. This report holds zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
The number is half because the human rights orgs count each cheek.
So if violence begets violence, why put criminals in prison where there is nothing but violence? I say good for the teachers who did this.
My parents spanked me as a child (okay bad example ) but it's all in the "delivery". Over excessive punishment is not good but if you need to give a child a spanking to keep them from being a$$es then it should allowed
It's always interesting that individuals who promote spanking were also spanked as a child. Not sure I've ever met someone who spanks but was never spanked, but I've met many who were spanked and then chose not to spank their children. Seems that violence DOES beget violence.
The violence in prisons is not from the officers by and large, it's by other offenders. Where else would you like to see violent offenders placed?
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) but it's all in the "delivery". Over excessive punishment is not good but if you need to give a child a spanking to keep them from being a$$es then it should allowed
