Is this ok?

[DoveDiva]

No, it's not okay, but she apologized, and that should be the end of that. She's human.

If anything as a parent (and an educator) I'd use it as a teachable moment with my child and show him/her that no one is perfect and how it's important to apologize for unacceptable behavior.

[DoveDiva]

Oh and for the record....it's unfortunate but some kids don't respond if you come to them with this "kumbaya" behavior. My coworkers and I always talk about how with some kids, we can talk until we're blue in the face...but they won't listen. It takes us raising our voices with some of them and showing that we won't take their crap for us to get them to act halfway decent in class. Every year I always have that one child where I have to tell him, "Be very glad that I am not your mother, because we'd have a misunderstanding if I got a phone call about this right now."

(I teach middle school, including behaviorally challenged children)

[Colddiamond102]

Originally Posted by DoveDiva

Oh and for the record....it's unfortunate but some kids don't respond if you come to them with this "kumbaya" behavior. My coworkers and I always talk about how with some kids, we can talk until we're blue in the face...but they won't listen. It takes us raising our voices with some of them and showing that we won't take their crap for us to get them to act halfway decent in class. Every year I always have that one child where I have to tell him, "Be very glad that I am not your mother, because we'd have a misunderstanding if I got a phone call about this right now."

(I teach middle school, including behaviorally challenged children)

-grin-

You and I would have had fun when I was in middle/high school.


Personally, I always responded better to the no bullsh** approach.
Its not going to hurt these kids to be ordered about.

[Sam82]

Originally Posted by yankeegirl313

I ask my son if he was getting into trouble before that happened. He said, no.

The other boy apparently ask his teacher in front of the other students, who were..yes, taking a test. But.....if this is said "outloud" to where the rest of the students in the class could hear it, then they all heard and seen what was happening.

By your own admission, your son was not paying attention before the teacher said, "shut up". He obviously didn't know what was going on that caused the teacher to say it. I'm not blaming your son. Children are very unreliable witnesses. Most of the time they don't leave out details on purpose. I'm just trying to help you realize that there is probably more to the story. Still, I hope the teacher was just having a bad day and does not do it again. There is no reason to use that phrase with children in my opinion.

[raising3boys]

Originally Posted by Colddiamond102

Its not going to hurt these kids to be ordered about.

I am a parent AND an educator. My job is NOT to order kids about. I stick by my response; if you have to yell at your students, then you are not an effective teacher.Yes, you might have made the students do something in that particular moment, but you can not be effective when it comes to teaching the subject matter. You can still COMMAND respect without even raising your voice and ordering students around. Classroom teachers SHOULD NOT be dictators. The principals that I have worked for would NOT tolerate someone yelling and ordering students around. BTW~Yes, I have worked in very rough schools before too.

I treat students in the classroom like I would want someone to treat my OWN children.

[sapphire]

I've yelled at my kids, and that does not make me an ineffective parent. It made me a loud one at times, but I usually didn't have to yell for long periods.

I still think this has all been overblown--the teacher apologized, there is nothing to sue about, nor does it need a 75 post response on here about what wonderful parents and teachers we all are. The boy needed shutting up! He needed to be taking his test and not concerned about where everyone else was going and what they were doing. Kids cry, they manipulate, and they don't always tell the "whole truth"--and no, I am not calling the OP's child a liar, but the OP was not in the classroom to hear for herself what happened, therefore it's questionable.

[DITC]

Of course it was not "nice", but teachers arent supposed to be nice. They are supposed to teach and discipline. Kids today are too soft.

[Colddiamond102]

Originally Posted by raising3boys

I am a parent AND an educator. My job is NOT to order kids about. I stick by my response; if you have to yell at your students, then you are not an effective teacher.Yes, you might have made the students do something in that particular moment, but you can not be effective when it comes to teaching the subject matter. You can still COMMAND respect without even raising your voice and ordering students around. Classroom teachers SHOULD NOT be dictators. The principals that I have worked for would NOT tolerate someone yelling and ordering students around. BTW~Yes, I have worked in very rough schools before too.

I treat students in the classroom like I would want someone to treat my OWN children.

I cant speak for what Id want for my children, because I have none and it will stay that way. However, I am speaking as someone who is only 4 years removed from high school. I remember quite well our opinions of teachers and the reasons for those opinions.
We knew which ones were soft, which were clueless, and which wouldnt take any sh**.
The latter kind were the one's that garnered the most respect. Mind you, these teachers didnt yell all the time. There were teachers that did, and after a while we just ignored them and wrote them off as * enter expletive here*. We would perform the task, not out of respect,but to shut the teacher up.
As for the respected ones, they would and DID yell...but sparingly. If the class was yelled at,it deserved it. If an individual was yelled at, they deserved it ( How do I know? Alot of the time it was me being yelled at ) Bottom line: When these teachers gave an instruction, it was expected to be followed. And, because we respected them, we followed the expectation, if that makes any sense.
From my observations and my own experience, it was the firm teachers we learned from the most.
And also, from a personal standpoint, it was those "sensitivity trained" teachers that I grew wary of and lost respect for the fastest.