El Paso Urban Legends (Cool: houses, neighborhood, homeowner)

[Chicano915]

Originally Posted by joqua

Well, which is it? In an earlier post to this thread you said:


It's not hard to find photos of both Cottonwood and Indian springs on the internet using GOOGLE IMAGES. Here is one such photo of Cottonwood Springs - not dated so may not be recent:


As for Indian Springs, it is located on the east side near the summit of Indian Peak as shown on the map here:

Here is an excellent web page for further information on the Franklin Mountain range:

http://www.summitpost.org/franklin-mountains/472740

For anyone with further interest in this thread, there is a ton of information and personal photos on the internet for anyone willing to spend the time searching.

There is a difference between a spring and a small stream

[atrabilius]

Yes. And?

At one point apparently the spring in Indian Spring Canyon produced enough water to where it flowed down the canyon and cut the arroyo, but that was long ago.

[Columbia Blue]

Well I've been to Cottonwood Springs many times, however I somehow missed out on Indian Springs. Actually I never even heard of it until a short time ago. To tell you the truth, my main memory of Cottonwood Springs is bees/hornets. They seemed to be having a festival the last two times i was up there. They were everywhere.

[atrabilius]

Originally Posted by Columbia Blue

Well I've been to Cottonwood Springs many times, however I somehow missed out on Indian Springs. Actually I never even heard of it until a short time ago.

It was the other way around for me, basically; I grew up around Rushing and Trans-Mountain and Indian Spring Canyon was within biking distance of my house. I think the Museum of Archaeology opened when I was 12 (it was Wilderness Park Museum back then). Cottonwood Spring was on the wrong side of the mountain. I went to Tom Mays several times but never got around to hiking into the mountains to Cottonwood Spring or the tin mine.

Something else about Indian Spring Canyon: I'm not sure if this is an urban legend or not but Satanists were supposed to have a place of worship way up in the canyon when I was a teenager (around 1980). When I was in high school and then at UTEP the following story was making the rounds on the streets of Northeast: The Satanist worship site was marked with colored rocks. Some guy hiking in the canyon took the rocks home with him, and even though the canyon was empty and nobody saw him taking the rocks, a few hours later a couple of Satanists showed up at his house demanding the rocks back.

[atrabilius]

How about all the stories surrounding this house on Piedmont owned by a couple (named Patterson?) who sometime in the 1960s(?) just up and disappeared without a trace, leaving a business they owned behind. Some say they were spies, some say they were made to vanish by gangsters a la Jimmy Hoffa, some say they just decided to disappear, and their house was supposed to be haunted.

[Columbia Blue]

The Patterson's disappearance is an interesting story. All sorts of Marie Celeste type legends have sprung up around it, such as the table still being set for dinner when the police came to their home to look for them etc. Adding two links. The El Paso Times one is the main link that is out there. The other one is an interesting board discussion on the case. Go down about 6 or 7 posts to read an interesting ghost story related to the house if that sort of thing interests you.

Tales from the Morgue: 48 years, many theories, no leads. Still missing


TX TX - William Patterson, 52, & Margaret Patterson, 42, El Paso, 1957 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

[malamute]

Originally Posted by Chicano915

Do you guys know any urban legends of El Paso or got info on them. Not just haunted or scary stories but other legends of the city. For example I hear there is a waterfall somewhere in the Frankling Mountains. I firts heard it from a Park ranger. He says there has always been people saying there is waterfall in a cave in the mountains, others say is way up high. The Ranger says it is very possible for one to exist hidden in a cave, because there must be a water source that we dont know of that can keep all the deer running around there alive. He says deer need a lot of water, and cant get that water just from plants, there has to be a water source that keeps them alive. There is also another legend that says there is a gold mine, I think UTEP did some research and found it, a gold mine did exist but they dont know where it is . My grandpa says there is gold in the mountains but he says it is guarded by the ghosts of jumano indians He says the only way to get the gold is to have indian blood in you, my grandpa is tarahumara indian, so i'll be looking Anyways any other urban legends from the area? Scary legends and scary stories are welcomed but there is already a thread for that but I dont mind them

And now it's national news about a naked caveman who has been living in a cave for three years.

There is plenty of water available because it's a short hike down the mountain to the river or irrigation drainage canals but also there are those couple of small streams. You could probably live in some cave up there for quite some time if you just walk down for water every so often. You could get it from people's swimming pools, garden hoses, a Circle K store and then walk back over to your cave.

[lipbalm]

Originally Posted by Chicano915

Do you guys know any urban legends of El Paso or got info on them. Not just haunted or scary stories but other legends of the city. For example I hear there is a waterfall somewhere in the Frankling Mountains. I firts heard it from a Park ranger. He says there has always been people saying there is waterfall in a cave in the mountains, others say is way up high. The Ranger says it is very possible for one to exist hidden in a cave, because there must be a water source that we dont know of that can keep all the deer running around there alive. He says deer need a lot of water, and cant get that water just from plants, there has to be a water source that keeps them alive. There is also another legend that says there is a gold mine, I think UTEP did some research and found it, a gold mine did exist but they dont know where it is . My grandpa says there is gold in the mountains but he says it is guarded by the ghosts of jumano indians He says the only way to get the gold is to have indian blood in you, my grandpa is tarahumara indian, so i'll be looking Anyways any other urban legends from the area? Scary legends and scary stories are welcomed but there is already a thread for that but I dont mind them

You really believe this S**T? wow, how old are you? "Chicano915" really? how original. I have never heard that before.

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Originally Posted by lipbalm

You really believe this S**T? wow, how old are you? "Chicano915" really? how original. I have never heard that before.

Maybe it is real... I heard my daughter talk about a Barbie Waterfall Princess, maybe they made a movie there. I did a Google, and came up with this, but it looks like it might be the waterfall in the cave; check it out.

[Chicano915]

Originally Posted by lipbalm

You really believe this S**T? wow, how old are you? "Chicano915" really? how original. I have never heard that before.

Do you know what Urban Legend is??