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Old 06-15-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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I post in the El Paso forum as I know most people here have been to the area.

I am considering purchasing real estate in either of the two areas for future retirement, but not sure which. I used to go to the areas as a child, and teenager with my family on camping trips, but being so young, I could not judge social, or economic condidtions then (didn't know about them really!).

From what I recall, I think I liked Cloudcroft better than Ruidoso, it appeared to be more secluded, and Ruidoso seemed to have more shady people there. As a kid, one remembers those kinds of things; I'm not judging the people themselves, but as an adult, I know more and read more about drugs/drunks, etc. and it appears that Ruidoso has more of a problem with that, or have I been misinformed?

I would appreciate both pros and cons (honesty) about both areas if you have any.

Thanks
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:35 PM
 
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I also love Cloudcroft and Ruidoso and the WHOLE region there.

Couple of problems and that is because of the 12 year drought now places like Cloudcroft are rationing water. Secondly not only has land and housing really gone up but insurance is very expensive on homes as the Fire Seasons are getting worst. I was just down there a couple weeks back and i was hearing how the Lincoln National Forest and all the Campgrounds were closed do to the fire restrictions as it's so dry in the timbers there.

Maybe that's why i like Alamogordo as it's cheaper than the mountain communities but from Alamo's north boundary on U.S. 82 it takes me 10 minutes to go thru the Tunnel at High Rolls where i'm in National Forest for 100's of sq miles. Also look into other communities like Carrizozo and Capitan on the outskirts.

But yeah i love the Sacramento Mountain Range as it's about 100 miles long and 45 miles wide and at peaks of 10.000 ft. or higher.

6/3
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:40 PM
 
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What I would do is have the chamber send you a packet for Ruidoso. In there you will see how big of an area your talking about. I have family up there and they live in a community that is out in a opening with trees all around and deer graze in the front yard. Cloud Croft as well is so spread out that you really only see the town and then never really see the homes located all over the place hidden in the trees.

Alamogordo is a place I am even thinking of moving too.. one its not El Paso, and like 6/3 said its just a short drive to the mountain and the cooler temps if the heat of the desert gets to be too much for me.. and I need that little bit of green to cheer me up.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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I like Cloudcroft better --- but as far as building a home in the forest -- I myself would not likely do that because forest fires are inevitable. Also for me I like the SW because you don't need to worry much about heating costs and so living in a cold place would defeat that.

I too can see Alamogordo as a nice place that has it all -- close enough to the forests for a day trip -- since they're only a half hour away, yet no need for much of a heater in the winter.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:43 PM
 
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Hey MAL if you build an Earth home not much for AC in the summer either. The El Paso/Alamogordo area is perfect for Earth Homes. We get enough rain to fill a good size basin for waste water.. like flushing toilets, and watering gardens. We get enough sun for solar power and enough wind for Wind power. If you cover your home in 6 inches of dirt and plant your gardens on it, you get the added benefit of insulation and your home is cooler. I am looking into what I call hobbit homes.. this region is great for it, and if done right I can stay off the grid pretty much and lower my cost of living a huge amount... and like I said Alamogordo is the perfect spot because when you need green and cooler temps its just a short drive away.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:48 PM
 
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Hey MAL if you build an Earth home not much for AC in the summer either. The El Paso/Alamogordo area is perfect for Earth Homes. We get enough rain to fill a good size basin for waste water.. like flushing toilets, and watering gardens. We get enough sun for solar power and enough wind for Wind power. If you cover your home in 6 inches of dirt and plant your gardens on it, you get the added benefit of insulation and your home is cooler. I am looking into what I call hobbit homes.. this region is great for it, and if done right I can stay off the grid pretty much and lower my cost of living a huge amount... and like I said Alamogordo is the perfect spot because when you need green and cooler temps its just a short drive away.
I don't even have an Earth home but I don't need AC in the summer either. I do like to have a ceilng fan or small box fan for when there's not enough of a breeze. I think you just have to either build with the sun in mind or make sure the house you're looking at was built with the sun in mind.

I lived in an adobe house with 12 inch walls once that was perfectly comfortable without air conditioning and needed very little heat. An earth home would be excellent in Alamogordo -- but I'd rather be hot than cold so I would pick Alamogordo.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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I don't even have an Earth home but I don't need AC in the summer either. I do like to have a ceilng fan or small box fan for when there's not enough of a breeze. I think you just have to either build with the sun in mind or make sure the house you're looking at was built with the sun in mind.

I lived in an adobe house with 12 inch walls once that was perfectly comfortable without air conditioning and needed very little heat. An earth home would be excellent in Alamogordo -- but I'd rather be hot than cold so I would pick Alamogordo.
Yeah well said.. I love Adobe homes.. I helped build one as a boy scout a long time ago. Its a very interesting process. Once you get all the bricks made ( grass or hay and mud ) and laid out to dry, you stack them and then skin the house over with the same mud. They are very strong and well insulated. It was a project that took us all summer, back when summer vacation was 3 months long. I don't know if I could do it again all by myself, as it was a project we all did, and I know I have forgotten steps in that process. It did teach me that if left on our own with no devices, man could still survive and make himself rather comfortable.
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Old 06-15-2008, 05:16 PM
 
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Alot of people would be surprised in that there are 9 Golf Courses spread out over the mountain range. There are 6 in Ruidoso and 2 in Cloudcroft and 1 in Timberon. Add to that 2 casinos and a Horse Racing Track and 7 lakes (Silver, Nogal, Bonito, Alto, Grindstone, Mescalero and Eagle Lakes) and 2 observatories (Apache Point and Sunspot).
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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I highly recommend retiring in Ruidoso. It's been my home away from home for years now, and is great if you want a beautiful, peaceful lifestyle. As for the shady people, they shouldn't be anywhere near your home. There are some walking the highway and in the casinos, but they are harmless (from my experiences). I really wouldn't worry about crime/shady people at all in Ruidoso.

There are a lot of terrible drivers there, but I guess you get used to that after a while. It just seems like people driving right in front of you will slam on the brakes suddenly when they need to make a turn, leading to you almost hitting them. That's a problem there, but aside from that, I love Ruidoso.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:49 PM
 
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Default Keep them coming

Hello all, thanks for the great information, please keep it coming!

KodyRumin, do you have any realtors you would recommend? One thing I am leary of is calling one when I live out of town; I know sometimes they are in cahoots with each other and that defeats the purpose of a realtor. I don't want to trust one if that one will relay financial information to the other, if you know what I mean. Not that this does not happen anyway, but being out of town, it is more questionable.

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