Strained relationship between Puerto Ricans and Mexican Americans in El Paso? part 2 please!! (San Juan: school, college)

[dinacora]

Hey Malamute! Isn't it funy that what we have in common and is supossed to join us sparks a fire so heated! Just have a laugh! Nobody is perfect and even the Castillian Spanish is not perfect. Most of the defects in s's, z's, drop of the vowels, or joint of two words, and others arrived to us through the Spaniards that came to America if they were from Islas Canarias, Castilla, Andalucia, if they had arabian influence, if they had french, portuguese or any other language or culture influence affected the way they spoke. Also once they settled in the America's the criollos got mixed with the natives, and the africans that they brought to do the toughest labor. All this mixture makes up what the different latinamerican nations cultures and regionalist differences in languages are today. Again nobody is perfect. We just need to be tolerant and understand that there is more out there than meets the eye. Keep an open mind.

[LEVOW]

Funny i used to work w a puerto rican woman at a call center, and she claims that she couldnt pronounce the [r's} when she spoke spanish.For example "gordo" to her it was "goldo" arroz was "ajo" or "alloz", then 1 time she asked for this lady named "ms rodriguez" and she rolled all her [r's], and i was like[ "i thought u were unable to roll your r's] she was like "i can, but i choose not to, even my brother told me that im starting to sound mexican" i was like ooooooh kay....

[Smooth from ELP]

I have Puerto Rican friends from the east coast...The Bronx!! They swear that they dont but admit other Puerto Ricans hate on Mexicans big time. She does not know why.

[Bosque]

Spanish is like English. There is British English (original) and there is American English (the off-shoot). There is Spain Spanish (original) and there is Latin American Spanish (the off-shoot).

In Spain (Castellano or Castilian - Official Spanish) the "c" has a "th" sound. So you will hear "thinco" instead of "cinco". You will also hear the "ll" pronounced with a soft "L" instead of a "y". Cubans (from the isle) sound similar to Spaniards because they hang out in Spain a lot.

Everyone else speaks a regional form of Spanish with indigenous words, various accents, and sounds mixed in.

[Bosque]

Originally Posted by Smooth from ELP

I have Puerto Rican friends from the east coast...The Bronx!! They swear that they dont but admit other Puerto Ricans hate on Mexicans big time. She does not know why.

I think the younger generation having been exposed to so many different types of people get along far better than the older generation who were somewhat separated.

Just think, 50 yrs ago were Salvadorans on the East Coast? No. Were Mexicans in NYC? No.

[lipbalm]

Originally Posted by Smooth from ELP

I have Puerto Rican friends from the east coast...The Bronx!! They swear that they dont but admit other Puerto Ricans hate on Mexicans big time. She does not know why.

If they are from the bronx they are really Newyoricans. Funny, I know a puerto rican lady from Puerto Rico and she disliked the puertoricans from New York.

[zcrack]

hey naveric1 I love you bro. Your mad smart. All Spanish people are the same. puerto ricans, mexicans, columbians....same **** you all wait outside homedepot and mow lawns.

[1979]

Originally Posted by malamute

One big reason for the animosity is the difference in how each speaks Spanish.

I know of a Mexican family where the father had a job transfer to the NE part of the USA, first they were happy to hear they could keep their kids in Spanish classrooms so they would "keep their language", until the kids came home lisping and they discovered the Spanish teacher was Cuban. They yanked those kids out of her class fast and stuck them in English classrooms because that wasn't the Spanish they should be learning.

I wouldn't see any reason for the two groups to be more bonded than either are with other groups such as Polish or Italian. Puerto Rico and Mexico have their own histories, foods, culture. Racially they aren't the same either.

Where in the NE? I know they don't offer Spanish teaching in the Boston metro area.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by 1979

Where in the NE? I know they don't offer Spanish teaching in the Boston metro area.

In or near New York City.

[Gary Siete]

For me we are all the same, we were conquered by the freaking Spaniards when they came fom Europe we all have the same language, Spanish!!!

More likely your ancestors were the freaking Spanish or came after the conquest. Puerto Rico is 80% White (Spanish, French..) and 8% Black. Maybe that is source of any animosity. Mexico is 60-75% Mestizo, 12-30% indigenous and 10-15% White.