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Unread 10-02-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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The people from Juarez could learn how to speak "some" English and then come over here as well. I've been to shops in Juarez where they didn't speak English. I also had a good friend who spoke Spanish so that I could do that. Why can't they do the same? Good point by the way malamute.
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Unread 10-03-2008, 09:28 AM
jfe
 
Location: El Paso
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Originally Posted by josh231985 View Post
Does anyone speak english in El Pasp

I have found it very hard to find a job in El paso . Because I do not speak Spanish, If I am not mistaking This is the United States right ? I should not be turned down for a job because i do not speak spanish? AND I SHOULD NOT HAVE TOO
I don't know about talking, but obviously you can't write in English
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Unread 10-03-2008, 01:09 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Nice trolling JFE.. you can clearly see on your keyboard that O and P are right next to each other and that is a typo.. not everyone has Firefox to correct their spelling for them. So because you got nothing else to Moan about, and you know this guy speaks the truth, you have to come in here and berate this guys spelling to divert from the real topic.. how nice.

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Unread 10-03-2008, 01:42 PM
 
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Ok I am not saying that everyone in El Paso has to speak English but I don't think it should be a requirement to speak spanish to get a job. I should not have to order my food in spanish at McDonalds because the cashier doesnt speak English.
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Unread 10-03-2008, 01:56 PM
 
Location: el paso texas
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i just dont understand what jobs you people are applying for, where speaking spanish is a must, ive never encountered a prblm, with this!
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Unread 10-03-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: El Paso
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Medical Assistants, call centers,restaurants,retail sales, grocery stores, manufacturing, etc. All these ask for english/spanish. My son and I were in Little Caesar's on Montwood last week and the girl who waited on us had to get someone to translate our order because we spoke english. It just don't seem as if we have a level playing field in this town. I'm buying Rocket Spanish next week and if their claims are true I should be able to carry on a conversation in about 3 months.
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Unread 10-03-2008, 03:09 PM
 
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It's really a simple "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thing. I'm aMexican in my wonderful town of Juarez where I grew up and I have a job in Smart and I only speak Spanish (seeing as how I'm MEXICAN). Would I want some gringo to come up to me and speak only English. NO, but I probably wouldn't spaz if it happened and I would probably try to help him. Would I want him to angry at me for not knowing English, when he's the gringo trying to shop at SMart in Juarez, MX and I'm the Mexican trying to help him anyway? I doubt it. Would I want a steady stream of customer coming into SMart in Juarez, MX expecting me to answer all thier gringo a$$es in English when I'm the Mexican trying to be nice and help people anyway? Hell no. For some reason a lot of hispanics that i know that do know English as well as Spanish get this story.

Now make me a non-hispanic American born and raised in El Paso or Las Cruces, who happens to work in Walmart on Mesa who tries to help people even though I only know English (which shouldn't be a surprise as I'm from El Paso or Las Cruces), and intead of gringos coming in all day make them Hispanics expecting me without reservation to know Spanish.

If the first scenario is undertstandably BULLS*IT, why isn't the second? I like El Paso, but I really do hate that about this town and about Hispanics who have that attitude. I work in Mexico, and so I learned Spanish. I use English first, but if someone expects or needs me to use Spanish instead, when I'm in their country, who am I to complain? I do it. But when I cross back into the good ol' US of A I expect to be able to use English everywhere, just like Mexicans in juarez expect to be able to use Spanish. Why a lot of people consider it unfair to them when they're in el paso, but fair to me when i'm in juarez, I'll never understand.

That, coincidentally, is also why I single out hispanic immigration from any other. I've had a lot of good discussions with good Mexican friends, and tried to tell them that when the Irish, or Italian, or German immigrants come (came) they integrated into the US and no one had any extreme problems with it. A lot (but not all obviously) of Hispanics (I assume it's just because <2% of thier blood, or some other low % in most cases, can be traced back to Indians) seem to feel like you're in their country/land, and so you need to conform to then even if they're the immigrant and you're the born and raised here resident. Find me a 100% indian and I'll agree we're on his/her land. Otherwise, it's all jumbled up blood and irrelovent. I just don't get it and I really hate it because it's so hypocritical and unfair to a lot of people, including non-spanish speaking americans looking to get a job in the us. Foreign languages should be a bonus skill set, not a required one.

/rant off :P
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Unread 10-03-2008, 03:34 PM
 
Location: El Paso
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CPELP
Well said!
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Unread 10-03-2008, 03:39 PM
bjh
 
Location: Memphis - home of the king
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This is what happens when your country doesn't protect its borders!
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Unread 10-03-2008, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chambers County
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And that is total crap. This is America, for god's sake, not some foreign ambassadorship.
I feel for you, but, no, this is not America anymore. Most people just can't bring themselves to admit that.

AMERICA: IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED, AND I MISS IT BADLY.
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