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Unread 12-21-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: NEWARK and loving it
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ok to the one person who said dont act like im from the east... i have never been west of philly.... i have no idea what acting like being from the east is like... can you go into details
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Unread 12-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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Location: Glory Road - El Paso, Texas (R.O)
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Again, assuming being Hispanic means you have two Hispanic parents who both had two Hispanic parents, then El Paso and UTEP would not be diverse. As we all (should) know, El Paso is not like that. We are very much ahead of the curve. Most polls and charts lump everyone with any Hispanic heritage into the same category. We can link to all the polls and surveys but they don't tell the whole story. Looking or sounding different is not a big deal here. That is not true of all places or Universities.

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Unread 12-22-2009, 04:47 AM
 
Location: central CT
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ok to the one person who said dont act like im from the east... i have never been west of philly.... i have no idea what acting like being from the east is like... can you go into details
I was just kidding (I'm from back east too). Actually be prepared for the best Mexican food of your life and women so beautiful you think you died and went to heaven. You'll be changed (for the better) for ever. I think it'll be the best move you ever made. Just don't tell the joke about the guy hitchhiking thru Texas, lol.
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Unread 12-22-2009, 07:54 AM
 
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Again, assuming being Hispanic means you have two Hispanic parents who both had two Hispanic parents, then El Paso and UTEP would not be diverse. As we all (should) know, El Paso is not like that. We are very much ahead of the curve. Most polls and charts lump everyone with any Hispanic heritage into the same category. We can link to all the polls and surveys but they don't tell the whole story. Looking or sounding different is not a big deal here. That is not true of all places or Universities.

That is my point. If a university had 85-90% of people with ancestors of French, English, Italian, Russin, Greek, Swede, German, Irish, Polish and more countries like that, it wouldn't be considered "diverse", nor would it be considered "diverse" if it was 90% people from various African countries. So when 90% came from Mexico, it's not exactly diverse, UTEP isn't even diverse when it comes to Latin American nations, you don't run into too many from Argentina, Ecuador, Puerto Rico - although there might be a handful, a handful of others isn't what "diversity" is supposed to mean.

Of course that's lumping people together - but that's what words like "diversity" do at least if they mean ethnic or racial diversity. At UTEP people who aren't from a Spanish speaking background may or may not feel like they fit in, it all depends on the person. If you talk to enough people, you'll find both opinions.
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Unread 12-22-2009, 10:51 AM
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Location: Glory Road - El Paso, Texas (R.O)
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Back to my point, nobody at UTEP should really feel left out. Regardless of which nationality someone picks on a form, not all the Hispanics in El Paso look, sound, or act the same. I could be 1/4th Hispanic, I could be half Hispanic and half Black, I could be 3/4 Hispanic and 1/4 white, yet all those would probably fall under Hispanic in a poll or study. Yet all of those are diverse and quite different. The variety is very common here. Yes, a majority can trace some roots back to Mexico but there is so much more to story than that. Some just can't get passed a label or that Spanish is spoken here.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:15 AM
 
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Back to my point, nobody at UTEP should really feel left out. Regardless of which nationality someone picks on a form, not all the Hispanics in El Paso look, sound, or act the same. I could be 1/4th Hispanic, I could be half Hispanic and half Black, I could be 3/4 Hispanic and 1/4 white, yet all those would probably fall under Hispanic in a poll or study. Yet all of those are diverse and quite different. The variety is very common here. Yes, a majority can trace some roots back to Mexico but there is so much more to story than that. Some just can't get passed a label or that Spanish is spoken here.
And not all of ANYBODY looks, sounds, or acts the same. That's certainly just as true of "blacks" and "whites". The term "diversity" doesn't imply that concept however.
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Unread 12-23-2009, 08:28 AM
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Location: Glory Road - El Paso, Texas (R.O)
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And not all of ANYBODY looks, sounds, or acts the same.
Ah, so you got my point.

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That's certainly just as true of "blacks" and "whites".
Yes, you really did get my point.

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The term "diversity" doesn't imply that concept however.
So be it. I never claimed it did. I was talking about whether someone would fit in or not. I am not the one hung up on the percentage of Hispanics in El Paso.

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Unread 12-23-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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Ah, so you got my point.



Yes, you really did get my point.



So be it. I never claimed it did. I was talking about whether someone would fit in or not. I am not the one hung up on the percentage of Hispanics in El Paso.

No -- I've always felt that about words like "diversity". It's almost always used to mean race or ethnicity. I never moved here for diversity, if I was looking for that, I'd live somewhere else.

In other words - I don't care about diversity, it's not top on my list for choosing a place. I was answering the OP who was asking about it - knowing that it usually means a wide variety and high enough numbers of various white, black, asian, hispanic and other backgrounds. It implies that 95% white or black isn't "diverse" -- when in fact they could be diverse as far as people, points-of-view, family backgrounds.

I just meant that - couldn't a place of 90-95% whites or blacks be as "diverse" as UTEP? Obviously they wouldn't be all immigrants or all USA born, they could be rich, poor, middle class. They too could be of different religious backgrounds, political backgrounds - but they wouldn't be viewed as "diverse" all the same.
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Unread 12-30-2009, 12:47 AM
 
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Hi, I'm a 2009 UTEP Grad with some advice and answers to your questions. If your into all those dumb rankings UTEP is a Tier 4 university according to U.S World and News Report, so at least its ranked! UTEP strong programs are in engineering (Named the Best Engineering School for Hispanic Students) and its Business school (mainly International Business). However, I graduated from the Liberal Arts College with a degree in Political Science who has some great professors. It just depends what you are majoring in. I made it into law school and had at least 10 friends make it into top 10 law schools and I knew a lot more that made it into a law school which is pretty competitive and hard to do.


I live in Michigan right now and I feel a little like an outcast being from "the south" mainly because of the weather. El Paso is known for 300 days of sunshine and 80 degree winters at times. Just meet people and the feeling will go away.


I think there are a couple of places you can get a good slice, I've had pizza from New York, Chicago, and tons of other places, but House of Pizza in El Paso is one of the best! The guy is from Boston and the pizza is so good that he is able to close his entire business for 2 months to go visit family in Boston and give his employees paid vacation. Thats how much business he gets. Also a little place called Hello Pizza on the west side, the guy is from Brooklyn so you'll be able to get some NY style pizza.



Do you need a car? I would say it depends, El Paso is a pretty big city so if you want to be able to get from one end to another I would suggest it. If you are content with staying by the University then you don't because you have it all around UTEP. Food, nightlife, sports, and shopping all in walking distance. Entertainment scene: I've been to many places in the southwest and in tx and I have got to say El Paso is starting to compete with the likes of Austin and Phoenix in nightlife. Like the other comment said, it depends on your taste. UTEP's entertainment known as Cincinnati St. it more of the small college bar feel, no dress codes, and cheap drinks. Downtown is the more swanky places. Its known as the Union Plaza District and all of them have dress codes, drinks are pricey but that is where THE hottest girls in El Paso party. There are other smaller districts in EP but you would need a car to get to them.


Is it demanding? Being a former student I can say it depends. The majority of UTEP students work full-time and go to school so I think professors take that into consideration and make it a little less. I could say if you are not working and go to school 24/7 if you take 15 hours I could pretty much guarantee you a 3.6 and above average. I handled a full-time job and 15 hours each semester and left with a 3.0. Of course business and engineering schools are a different story. Hope this helped!
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