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Old 03-02-2010, 12:07 PM
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Which counties in Texas have the cheapest self-sufficient land with the most days of sunshine?

Such as where it is economical to drill a well for water, where there is enough water, where you could have wind or solar for electricity, and thus live "off the grid?" Less than $2000/acre preferred, not near the coast preferred (to avoid hurricanes), and prefer as much sunshine as possible. The dilemma is that the farther west Texas you go, you get less rain but more sunshine. The farther east you go, you get more rain/water but less days of sunshine. For example farthest West Texas you get in

El Paso 84% sunny days but only 9 inches of rain all year.

On far East Texas, you get about in

Houston 59% sunny days and 51 inches of rain,
Beaumont/Port Arthur 58% sunny days with 56 inches of rain.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Texas land does not automatically include the right to put in a well.

Maybe this will help.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/9729170-post39.html

You can capture and store all the rain that falls on your land, but you have no right to remove water from "surface water" lakes or streams, flowing across or next to your land, or subsurface water, and store it for your own use.

This document provided by the state goes into considerable detail http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/files/gi-228.pdf_4467322.pdf (broken link)
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:56 PM
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If a well is for domestic use, then it would be exempt. Am I wrong in my thinking? In your link, it does not talk much about wells at all.

http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/files/gi...df_4467322.pdf

[SIZE=2][SIZE=2][LEFT]Domestic and livestock use. [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Also called [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]D&L [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]use, this refers to
water used to water range livestock, meet household needs, or irrigate
a yard or home garden.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]If you live on a river or stream and[/LEFT]
use the water in this way, then you do not need a permit.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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If a well is for domestic use, then it would be exempt. Am I wrong in my thinking? In your link, it does not talk much about wells at all.

http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/files/gi...df_4467322.pdf

[SIZE=2][SIZE=2][LEFT]Domestic and livestock use. [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Also called [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]D&L [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]use, this refers to
water used to water range livestock, meet household needs, or irrigate
a yard or home garden.[/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=1]2 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]If you live on a river or stream and[/LEFT]
use the water in this way, then you do not need a permit.
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I cannot find any clear information on when a domestic well is permitted or what the requirements would be. Probably the best thing to do is contact your local "Groundwater Conservation District" and ask them.

Groundwater Conservation Districts - Texas Commission on Environmental Quality - www.tceq.state.tx.us
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:08 AM
 
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I think the middle areas of it where there's less population. That's the only way you'll find acres that are cheap enough.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:28 PM
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Texas land does not automatically include the right to put in a well.
My interpretation is that since a well would be for personal use and not only is water for personal use specifically permitted there is no mention of private wells being excluded.

I think its akin to suggesting if you buy land, it does not automatically include the right to breath air, or walk on it, or dance on it, or talk to it. The way laws are setup is that if its not excluded, then by process of elimination, it is allowed. Since breathing air and drilling wells are not excluded, they are therefore permitted.

If I am wrong, please supply proof.
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