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I wouldn't be surprised for a second that the Republican party is anxious to change its image-after all look at Steele. Are they wrong in doing this? I know a lot of minorities are actually conservative but vote along the Democratic party line because of mostly perceived racism from GOP members. Neither party is above using race to win votes. That said, I like the ideological policies of Scott and Haley but also understand that their victories are a symptom of change in the South. It will be interesting to see the hateful things said by liberals against Tim Scott especially.
By the way, I can't speak for the rest of the South but I personally feel quite connected with the modern world.
Tim Scott.... maybe he'll get Essie Mae Washington-Williams's last name carved onto the Strom Thurmond monument. "That would be nice."
Top-down changes instead of bottom-up changes tend not to last, but maybe things are looking up
Top-down changes instead of bottom-up changes tend not to last, but maybe things are looking up
Meh. Michael Steele was a top-down change and a half-hearted response to Obama. General elections on the other hand are basically the definition of bottom-up changes. In the Charleston area at least Tim Scott had a very strong grass roots movement and I have friends that played important roles in Haley's campaign. I actually wouldn't call this a change since we've never been as racist down here as y'all claimed we were (at least in my lifetime).
So the "racist south" will have not 1, but the only 2 Indian American governors, one who's a female, a Vietnamese American congressman, and a black conservative congressman. Hmmm.........
What ever will the left do when they just can't use the race card anymore???
Meh. Michael Steele was a top-down change and a half-hearted response to Obama. General elections on the other hand are basically the definition of bottom-up changes. In the Charleston area at least Tim Scott had a very strong grass roots movement and I have friends that played important roles in Haley's campaign. I actually wouldn't call this a change since we've never been as racist down here as y'all claimed we were (at least in my lifetime).
Michael Steele was only a cosmetic effect as you noted. But that was then and this is now!
Right?
Also, Tim Scott's approach seems to have been narrow local issues. Paul Thurmond was on about nebulous national things like cap and trade. Which is more likely to speak to "grassroots" voters?
Do you happen to know, was Tim Scott promoted by black or white S. Carolinians for the most part?
I think it's insulting that the RW thinks black voters will blindly support a candidate just because he's black. Maybe you dont.
Michael Steele was only a cosmetic effect as you noted. But that was then and this is now!
Right?
Also, Tim Scott's approach seems to have been narrow local issues. Paul Thurmond was on about nebulous national things like cap and trade. Which is more likely to speak to "grassroots" voters?
Do you happen to know, was Tim Scott promoted by black or white S. Carolinians for the most part?
I think it's insulting that the RW thinks black voters will blindly support a candidate just because he's black. Maybe you dont.
Paul Thurmond was a good candidate and yes he concentrated on major issues. (Tim Scott's focus on illegal immigration was about removing the incentives for illegals to come to SC but what do you expect since he ran in SC?). My major problem with Thurmond was his support on the "Fair tax". That's for another thread but I believe it foolish for a consumer-driven economy.
Tim Scott won with 68% of the vote so he had massive support from whites and blacks. When I drove around I saw many people (usually white) holding up his signs on the side of the street but then again across the street from where I live is a family of black republicans who've done campaigning for him. They had most of our street with Scott signs on their front lawns.
Who said black voters blindly support a candidate because he's black? I remember hearing that argument about Obama's election but most blacks in South Carolina would vote a white democrat in before a black republican. But isn't that assumption the same as being surprised that white southerners voted in minorities?
Last night was a great night for both the south and our country..
One more interesting comment, can someone explain, if indeed the south is so racist how come the last black Republican congressman was also from the south?
Nita
Well the fact that once you get outside the south Congressional representation is overwhelmingly Democratic has quite a bit to do with it.
Not sure what you mean by "retroactively." Are you saying the Republicans and the Dixiecrats pushed civil rights?
retroactive [ˌrɛtrəʊˈæktɪv] adj1. applying or referring to the past retroactive legislation 2. effective or operative from a date or for a period in the past retroactivelyadv retroactiveness , retroactivityn
Well it certainly wasn't the Dems that pushed Civil Rights. Your revisionist history has deluded many though - I guess a big "kudos" is in order for that.
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^ You took that WAY out of context. Deliberately hoping to fool others, or did you not know any better?
Are you deliberately hoping to deflect logic to fool others, or did you not know any better? One can either think logically, or s/he can't. It's as simple as that.
SC may elect another nutbag as Governor? Who would have thunk it?
It is possible that Democratic state Sen. Vincent Sheheen could win I guess, but I don't know him as well as you do to call him a nutbag.
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