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Old 11-10-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I guess neither you or the OP learned the lesson about predicting winners and losers. This thread should stand as an example of what not to do.
Take a look at that district. Its gerrymandered hell. Florida's new redistricting law turns it over to an Independent panel. Crap like that doesn't have a chance in hell of surviving. With an Independent panel no way whatsoever can that district turn into anything other than a Democratic district.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Take a look at that district. Its gerrymandered hell. Florida's new redistricting law turns it over to an Independent panel. Crap like that doesn't have a chance in hell of surviving. With an Independent panel no way whatsoever can that district turn into anything other than a Democratic district.
It already is a democrat district. I know its mine.

Allen West is going to be my congressman.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He told a crowd of tea partiers his mom was a life time member of the NAACP,the tea partys most hated enemy. He will go down in flames just like all those judas blacks in the tea party.




Kinda blew the brainwashing you have been exposed to.
Baffling isn't it?

Does your theory, hold water?

Maybe next time... but I doubt it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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notice, the Op didn't come back to comment after the election?


Heck, he was blown out of the thread in August. He was already looking for a bomb shelter, stocked up in crow.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It already is a democrat district. I know its mine.

Allen West is going to be my congressman.
It is more of a swing district than a Dem district. It was gerrymandered from a strongly Democratic district into a swing district in order to protect its former representative Republican, Clay Shaw. Shaw won by less than 600 votes in 2000 prior to the last round of redistricting. The GOP went all out with that gerrymander in order to try and keep the seat in Republican hands. They couldn't do enough to make it a GOP district, but was able to turn it into what was one of the most Democratic districts held by a Republican in the entire country into a swing district. They turned the district from something Gore won by 19 to a district he won by less than 5. That is some EPIC gerrymandering.

The current Cook PVI for the district is D+1, a non-Gerrymandered district would be more along the lines of D+8 or D+9 (the previous lines were D+9)

West won't have a chance in hell of retaining the seat after the non-partisan redistricting rips apart that gerrymandered hell.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It is more of a swing district than a Dem district. It was gerrymandered from a strongly Democratic district into a swing district in order to protect its former representative Republican, Clay Shaw. Shaw won by less than 600 votes in 2000 prior to the last round of redistricting. The GOP went all out with that gerrymander in order to try and keep the seat in Republican hands. They couldn't do enough to make it a GOP district, but was able to turn it into what was one of the most Democratic districts held by a Republican in the entire country into a swing district. They turned the district from something Gore won by 19 to a district he won by less than 5. That is some EPIC gerrymandering.

The current Cook PVI for the district is D+1, a non-Gerrymandered district would be more along the lines of D+8 or D+9 (the previous lines were D+9)

West won't have a chance in hell of retaining the seat after the non-partisan redistricting rips apart that gerrymandered hell.


That district is gerrymandered to be all the metro areas, where welfare and poverty are located and that is a concentration of democrat voters.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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That district is gerrymandered to be all the metro areas, where welfare and poverty are located and that is a concentration of democrat voters.
Hmm, interesting considering Palm Beach County is the wealthiest county in Florida, and the Republicans were in control of the last redistricting.....

Fact is the lines are going to be different in 2012, and under the new law, that forces compactness and things of that nature, no way can the district be anything other than more Democratic than it is now

Oh and btw, the gerrymandering that took place shoved heavy Dem areas of the previous 22nd into the 19th and 20th districts. The 19th and 20th were already very heavily Democratic districts that the GOP had no shot at anyway. So the gerrymandering that took place made the 19th and 20th even more Democratic in order to turn the 22nd from a heavy Democratic district into a swing district in order to give Shaw a better chance of holding onto the district. That is what resulted in that heavily gerrymandered mess that you see.

And as far as that whole poverty thing you mentioned, the three districts in question are three of the four wealthiest districts in the state....

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Old 11-11-2010, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Heck, he was blown out of the thread in August. He was already looking for a bomb shelter, stocked up in crow.


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He will go down in flames just like all those judas blacks in the tea party.
Yeah, that's right - real blacks can only be dems or libs, right?
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Democrats are the party of the KKK. How black Americans aligned themselves with the democratic party after MLK was bailed out of jail by JFK, I have no idea. MLK was a republican.
Then you have more than double the republicans voted for the civil rights act than did democrats.

Yet the Democrats label the republicans racist, when in fact it is the majority of Democrats that are staunch racist and always have been.

Southern democrats WERE the party of the KKK. Just like the republicans of Eisenhower are not the republicans of today,
they (the southern democrats) changed, a long long time ago. Somebody else now has the love of the KKK.
It's just not the democrats.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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West is probably a one-termer. His chief of staff choice was interesting to say the least, but the bigger issue here is the new FL law passed by the voters which will turn redistricting over to a non-partisan panel.

Gerrymandered hell like what is below won't be around anymore
lmao that map is awesome.
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