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Old 09-13-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Needless to say this is big news. The Elway poll has a great track record and is well respected here in the NW. The Republicans don't win this race, their chances of taking the Senate are virtually nil...

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A new Elway Poll on the Senate race has incumbent Democrat Patty Murray up 50-41% over Republican challenger Dino Rossi.
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Those results are quite a bit different from a KING 5 poll by Survey USA last month, which had Rossi ahead 52-45.
That poll, as Seattle PI.com's Chris Grygiel noted, weirdly had Rossi tied with Murray in the greater Seattle area, even though she won 59% of the King County vote in the primary. The Elway poll puts Murray's King County lead at 61-30%.
Politics Northwest | Murray leads in new Elway poll | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:11 AM
 
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HM dont know. RCP still has WA listed as a toss-up. But I don't know, a Republican winning there, would be just another of the Susan Collins/McAmnesty fold anyway
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Needless to say this is big news. The Elway poll has a great track record and is well respected here in the NW. The Republicans don't win this race, their chances of taking the Senate are virtually nil...

Politics Northwest | Murray leads in new Elway poll | Seattle Times Newspaper
and I don't think many expect them to take over the senate..

Nita
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:02 AM
 
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HM dont know. RCP still has WA listed as a toss-up. But I don't know, a Republican winning there, would be just another of the Susan Collins/McAmnesty fold anyway
I think RCP lists most races with a close margin and no one over 55% a tossup
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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and I don't think many expect them to take over the senate..

Nita
Murray will lose along with many others.

I think they will and I will explain my reasoning.

Just earlier today real clear politics had this "Conservative activist Christine O'Donnell holds a 47 percent to 44 percent lead over establishment favorite Rep. Mike Castle in Tuesday's Delaware GOP Senate primary, according to a new Public Policy..."

A three point lead touted early this morning.

The reality is with 98.5% of the precincts repo0rting an actual vote O'Donnell received 53.2% to Castle's 46.8% or more than double (6.4%) what polls were predicting just 12 hours ago.

Come November 2nd you will see this happen in election after election all across the country.
You are going to see undecideds break overwhelming to the republican side in a phenomenon explained by Dick Morris here

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Don’t confuse the dramatic swell of the Republican tide that is becoming increasingly evident to the pundits of the country with party trend. Right before Election Day, the numbers will get even better and presage an even larger Republican victory.
I think Morris is dead on this one. Any democrat polling less than 47% with a lead of 2 or 3% is in deep, deep ****. Right now the RCP Average 9/7 - 9/13 -- is 46.7% for Reid and 45.3% for Angle giving Reid just a 1.4% advantage but Reid is far below 50% and when the 8.8% of undecideds go to the polls they will overwhelmingly vote for Angle if, for nothing more, to send a message to Washington.

Democrats can not begin to fathom the depth of their looming defeat.

I expect a number of liberal suicide reports the evening of November 2nd.
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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Two more polls showing Murray opening up a lead over the slimy Dino Rossi (R-BIAW). That makes three this past week. Of note, the Elway Poll, plus these two, all have Patty over 50%.

Murray-53%
Rossi-44%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im.../topstate2.pdf

Murray-51%
Rossi-46%

Toplines - Washington Senate - September 14, 2010 - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢
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Old 09-18-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Come November 2nd you will see this happen in election after election all across the country.
You are going to see undecideds break overwhelming to the republican side in a phenomenon explained by Dick Morris here
Hmm, Dick Morris made a similar prediction about undecideds in 2008:

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Undecideds Should Break For McCain: "As Obama has oscillated, moving somewhat above or somewhat below 50 percent in all the October polls, his election likely hangs in the balance. If he falls short of 50 percent in these circumstances, a majority of the voters can be said to have rejected him. Likely a disproportionate number of the undecideds will vote for McCain."
Mark Nickolas: Worst Pundit In America: Dick Morris (In A Landslide)

How'd that work out for ya?
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Murray will lose along with many others.

I think they will and I will explain my reasoning.

Just earlier today real clear politics had this "Conservative activist Christine O'Donnell holds a 47 percent to 44 percent lead over establishment favorite Rep. Mike Castle in Tuesday's Delaware GOP Senate primary, according to a new Public Policy..."

A three point lead touted early this morning.

The reality is with 98.5% of the precincts repo0rting an actual vote O'Donnell received 53.2% to Castle's 46.8% or more than double (6.4%) what polls were predicting just 12 hours ago.

Come November 2nd you will see this happen in election after election all across the country.
You are going to see undecideds break overwhelming to the republican side in a phenomenon explained by Dick Morris here



I think Morris is dead on this one. Any democrat polling less than 47% with a lead of 2 or 3% is in deep, deep ****. Right now the RCP Average 9/7 - 9/13 -- is 46.7% for Reid and 45.3% for Angle giving Reid just a 1.4% advantage but Reid is far below 50% and when the 8.8% of undecideds go to the polls they will overwhelmingly vote for Angle if, for nothing more, to send a message to Washington.

Democrats can not begin to fathom the depth of their looming defeat.

I expect a number of liberal suicide reports the evening of November 2nd.
love you attitude, you and my husband would get along famously, but I don't think it will be that way totally. I do think Angle is going to pull it off, I will laugh my head off at all the libs here if that happens. They have had her getting creamed...

I agree about sending a message to Washington. I am not a strong supporter of the Tea Party, but I am happy with what they have accomplished. What they are saying and many Americans, "we have had enough" we want our country back.

Nita
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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Hmm, Dick Morris made a similar prediction about undecideds in 2008:

Mark Nickolas: Worst Pundit In America: Dick Morris (In A Landslide)

How'd that work out for ya?
Upton, in case you are not aware: 2008 is not 2010...

Nita
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Upton, in case you are not aware: 2008 is not 2010...

Nita

True, but the fact that Morris was so far off repeatedly in 2008, says something about his ability as a political prognosticator.

Here's some more in the way of Morris oldies but goodies from 2008:


"Palin’s selection will end up as a big win for John McCain
. ...The attacks on Palin mirror the problems that tens of millions of American women find in their everyday lives. To attack them would be to condemn themselves and their own choices in their own lives. Watching Palin standing strong and McCain backing her up will be inspiring to many of them. And the identification of the Democrats with the attacks on her will turn them off...The Republicans, McCain and Palin, will come through this crisis in great shape."


"Nobody is going to vote for or against McCain because they want Sarah Palin to be vice president of the United States, or don’t."

"Then came Obama’s conversation with Joe the Plumber, possibly the decisive moment in the election."

"By not putting Hillary on his ticket and then giving her a primetime speech at the convention on Tuesday, Obama has the worst of both possible worlds.
The better Hillary’s speech, the more people ask why she was passed over for vice president...He didn’t help himself with these women by not choosing Hillary. Now, when Hillary spends all of Tuesday night showing what a grievous omission leaving her off the ticket really was, the electoral consequences for Obama are likely to be horrific."

Mark Nickolas: Worst Pundit In America: Dick Morris (In A Landslide)

Morris is a partisan idiot Nita.
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