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Are you guys smoking crack? There's no way either of you is sooooo ignorant that you actually believe the BS you just posted up there. CA is the only state with natural attraction? LOL, that's quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen posted on this site.
And I would love to know how: way of life, entertainment, the culture and Hollywood could be considered "natural attractions?" Wouldn't you agree these are all phony attractions, not natural?
and polls show most Americans considering themselves conservative.
Nita
Really? Does that give you comfort? Many people in your political party also beleive the world was created 6000 yrs ago. Does that make you feel all good inside and safe that evil scientists are just trying to deny God? Stupidity is a major characteristic of conservatives. Sorry I'll pass on that label and so will the people of California.
Really? Does that give you comfort? Many people in your political party also beleive the world was created 6000 yrs ago. Does that make you feel all good inside and safe that evil scientists are just trying to deny God? Stupidity is a major characteristic of conservatives. Sorry I'll pass on that label and so will the people of California.
There are MILLIONS of proud conservatives in California, only a complete idiot would believe or insinuate that the entire state is made up of just liberals.
There are MILLIONS of proud conservatives in California, only a complete idiot would believe or insinuate that the entire state is made up of just liberals.
Only a complete idiot would do the same thing over and over again and expect different results, too! The post-election response from both Republican candidates & GOP operatives is that they lost another of many elections in California because they do not appeal to the majority of the people who live here. All of them agree that only a "moderate" can win in California and why Steve Cooley, who was probably the most moderate of all Republicans, came very close to winning. Cooley made the statement that he played down his Republicanism in order to appeal to more voters unlike the typical GOP idiots who think they can win in California by being as conservative as Republicans in the rest of the nation, esp the South. That's what I mean about the Republican party not being very bright. Oh well, another GOP failure in the Golden State! Can't say I am losing any sleep over it!
Republicans will win again in California, it just may be a decade or two, unless there is a GOP national landslide ala 1984. Before Reagan, the "solid South" was a sure thing for the Democrats but now the South is solidly Republican. That said, by playing to the far-right (racist) Southern base the Republican party has hurt its chances with moderates and minorities and in diverse states like California. The big problem for Republicans in California is the socially conservative Latino voters, which has been solidly Democratic since Proposition 187 in 1994. Before that, California was a swing state. If Republicans want to remain viable they need to reach out to minority voters, most specifically Latinos, and most of them seem to be too naive (or bent on pleasing Southern voters) to realize this. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona goes blue in the near future due to their illegal immigration policies.
Republicans will win again in California, it just may be a decade or two, unless there is a GOP national landslide ala 1984. Before Reagan, the "solid South" was a sure thing for the Democrats but now the South is solidly Republican. That said, by playing to the far-right (racist) Southern base the Republican party has hurt its chances with moderates and minorities and in diverse states like California. The big problem for Republicans in California is the socially conservative Latino voters, which has been solidly Democratic since Proposition 187 in 1994. Before that, California was a swing state. If Republicans want to remain viable they need to reach out to minority voters, most specifically Latinos, and most of them seem to be too naive (or bent on pleasing Southern voters) to realize this. I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona goes blue in the near future due to their illegal immigration policies.
Wow, someone who actually makes sense! The tragedy of the GOP is that they have moved so far away from their roots that many people don't recognize or want anything to do with Republicans. A very interesting aspect of the pre and post-election results and analysis is how many California Republicans have a very low opinion of their own party and many either refused to vote or actually voted Democratic. These are the old time Reagan Republicans when the GOP meant conservative fiscal values but stayed clear of any social issues. Even smart Republicans [and there aren't many to be sure] continue to moan over the mistakes the GOP make in nominating ultra-right wing individuals who the Bible-belt contingent like but who the overall electorate abhor. So the GOP in California looks more and more pathetic and despised; they hate each other more than they hate Democrats. Dump the fundamentalist yahoos and the GOP will start to win elections again in California.
Wow, someone who actually makes sense! The tragedy of the GOP is that they have moved so far away from their roots that many people don't recognize or want anything to do with Republicans. A very interesting aspect of the pre and post-election results and analysis is how many California Republicans have a very low opinion of their own party and many either refused to vote or actually voted Democratic. These are the old time Reagan Republicans when the GOP meant conservative fiscal values but stayed clear of any social issues. Even smart Republicans [and there aren't many to be sure] continue to moan over the mistakes the GOP make in nominating ultra-right wing individuals who the Bible-belt contingent like but who the overall electorate abhor. So the GOP in California looks more and more pathetic and despised; they hate each other more than they hate Democrats. Dump the fundamentalist yahoos and the GOP will start to win elections again in California.
you keep saying they have moved so far away from their base and no matter how many tell you this isn't true or ask you for examples, you have none. They are no more conservative than 20 or 30 years ago and in some ways less. Sorry kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. You hate Republicans, that is your right, but don't keep making things up to prove a point.
you keep saying they have moved so far away from their base and no matter how many tell you this isn't true or ask you for examples, you have none. They are no more conservative than 20 or 30 years ago and in some ways less. Sorry kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. You hate Republicans, that is your right, but don't keep making things up to prove a point.
Nita
Nita, I have produced many examples in the past but you don't like to read the truth so I will link these articles for those who actually have an open mind. You don't read the LA Times; it probably is the most read and highly recommended newspaper in California. The election coverage and assessment from both the Republican & Democratic perspective is very revealing. Please stop being so defensive and consider what Republicans point out as the huge mistakes the GOP make in progressive states like California.
you keep saying they have moved so far away from their base and no matter how many tell you this isn't true or ask you for examples, you have none. They are no more conservative than 20 or 30 years ago and in some ways less. Sorry kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. You hate Republicans, that is your right, but don't keep making things up to prove a point.
Nita
Republicans post-Clinton have used social issues as their litmus test. There are a lot of fiscal conservatives in places like California turned off by the continual Republican pandering to the redneck South. California SHOULD be a swing state. There is no reason it should be as blue as it is. That doesn't necessarily mean Republicans have to change views on social issues either (Obama is against gay marriage just to clarify), it means stop using them as a WEDGE. It may secure Southern states but it turns off voters in the north and west. So what if a candidate doesn't hate gays...what is his position on taxes, education, healthcare, energy, etc?
Republicans post-Clinton have used social issues as their litmus test. There are a lot of fiscal conservatives in places like California turned off by the continual Republican pandering to the redneck South. California SHOULD be a swing state. There is no reason it should be as blue as it is. That doesn't necessarily mean Republicans have to change views on social issues either (Obama is against gay marriage just to clarify), it means stop using them as a WEDGE. It may secure Southern states but it turns off voters in the north and west.
It has gotten beyond redemption for the GOP in the West. Now people vote against the Republican party. The candidate and issue don't matter anymore and that has to be very sobering news to Republicans. The Republican running for the state attorney general was a moderate from Los Angeles. He was 3 term county district attorney who was respected and always did well in previous local elections. The guy lost heavily in his own county because in the state election he had to identify his political party; when people saw the "R" after his name they immediately rejected him. In the past election, polls showed that 20% electorate stated that they would never vote for a Republican in California. Now generations of voters reject the GOP and its base in California is overwhelmingly old people who are white in a state that is heavily ethnic and young. Even a dead Democrat won against an alive Republican! Voters knew that the Democrat had died yet hated the GOP so much that they voted for the deceased person anyway.
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There's no way either of you is sooooo ignorant that you actually believe the BS you just posted up there. CA is the only state with natural attraction? LOL, that's quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen posted on this site.
The post-election response from both Republican candidates & GOP operatives is that they lost another of many elections in California because they do not appeal to the majority of the people who live here. All of them agree that only a "moderate" can win in California and why Steve Cooley, who was probably the most moderate of all Republicans, came very close to winning. Cooley made the statement that he played down his Republicanism in order to appeal to more voters unlike the typical GOP idiots who think they can win in California by being as conservative as Republicans in the rest of the nation, esp the South. That's what I mean about the Republican party not being very bright. Oh well, another GOP failure in the Golden State! Can't say I am losing any sleep over it! 
Voters knew that the Democrat had died yet hated the GOP so much that they voted for the deceased person anyway.
