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Old 11-04-2010, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by jefffla01 View Post
shorebaby
I am not questioning the legitimacy of Scotts election. My post suggest disgust at Floridas inability to conduct an election without massive problems.

In 2004 it was the famous chads issue on voter cards----in 2000 the monumental problems in Palm Beach County creating chaos in the election-----and now Tuesday nights disaster in Palm Beach County again caused nightmares.

Again, please read the post carefully-------if you live here in Florida you know what I mean about Floridas elections process and the annual problems.

And my response were to your second and third paragraphs referencing Scott. I never suggested you were questioning his legitimacy. However others were based on the reasoning in your comments about Scott.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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She lives in Jersey, which means, of course, that she is an expert on all things Floridian.

LOL, yes it takes weeks sometimes months to get news of the happenings in Florida.

Oh yeah as for being an expert, you don't even know my gender. LOL

Last edited by shorebaby; 11-04-2010 at 11:05 PM..
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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First Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Unless you are a psychiatrist, any attempt to diagnosis anyone via the internet is sad.
She has just as much right to say what she thinks as you do.

Last time I looked, claiming someone is being irrational isn't anywhere CLOSE to being a "medical diagnosis".


anf just FTR, this isn't a "Florida forum" either. Post in a general forum and you can expect responses from posters in general
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Old 11-05-2010, 05:08 AM
 
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I think what you meant was "This is how he answered questions in THIS desposition." And there was a reason his lawyer advised him to do that. But you aren't interested in facts, are you? You just want to stain Scott with the SUGGESTION that he committed some sort of fraud. Can you find any facts to actually back up that suggestion?
Some sort of fraud? Are you a Floridian? You don't know the news or his record Rick Scott's company was fined with civil AND criminal fines of 1.7 billion by the Feds, the largest Medicare fraud case ever. HIS board of directors threw Rick Scott out of CEO position of HIS company. This information was out there years before the thought of running for any office crossed Rick Scott's mind. It was and is the hugest scam of fraud to overbill the government in US history, and continues to outrage residents of Florida who recall when the original news broke of the scandal.
Rick Scott, who ran a company involved in the nation's largest Medicare fraud case, wants to be Florida's governor - Sun Sentinel

'...Rick Scott was co-founder and CEO of Columbia/HCA in the 1990s, when the FBI launched a massive, multi-state investigation that led to the company pleading guilty to criminal charges of overbilling the government....'

Additionally, Scott took his ill-gotten gains from his golden parachute and started ANOTHER company:
http://floridaindependent.com/5617/n...-by-rick-scott

'...Two doctors— both former employees of Solantic, the chain of clinics launched by Scott and in which he is a majority investor — allege that Solantic repeatedly used their name and medical license information without their permission or knowledge. Both doctors state that by allegedly misappropriating their information, the company was able to keep clinics operating in contravention of state law....'

Last edited by aspiesmom; 11-05-2010 at 05:17 AM.. Reason: Scott's current company's scam
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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I will not deal with a criminal governor in Florida, neither will most Floridians.
lol You dont speak for most Floridians and majority Floridians said yes they will. Hence he won.

Continue the temper fit
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:09 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Because most Floridians will not tolerate this Medicare/Medicaid fraud in the Florida governor's mansion. We have heard about him for years before he even thought of the gubernatorial race. If there are not statutory ways to oust him, there may be federal ways, including federal prison.
lmbo ^ seems to think the election hasnt happened and Rick Scott didnt win lol
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:11 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Well apparently a MAJORITY of Floridians voted him in............
Shhh you cant tell some that
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:12 AM
 
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If I may?

To those who keep screaming, "He wasn't charged, so he must be innocent" ....

Companies incorporate to protect their officers and shareholders from personal liability for corporate misdeeds. While a corporation -an entity- may be found guilty of criminal acts, one can't very well put an entity in prison. Therefore, the corporation gets a monetary punishment -a fine.

The only way to get to the corporate officers to prosecute them for their part in the corporate misdeeds is by the process of "piercing the corporate veil," which can be very difficult and usually only happens when there is a very serious offense like fraud. (and this was a case of fraud)

The corporation pled guilty. Taking the plea bargain stopped the investigation and prevented the court from piercing the corporate veil and prosecuting Scott and the other officers. So while you certainly can continue the "he wasn't charged" mantra, perhaps now you can understand why.

Carry on.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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If I may?

To those who keep screaming, "He wasn't charged, so he must be innocent" ....

Companies incorporate to protect their officers and shareholders from personal liability for corporate misdeeds. While a corporation -an entity- may be found guilty of criminal acts, one can't very well put an entity in prison. Therefore, the corporation gets a monetary punishment -a fine.

The only way to get to the corporate officers to prosecute them for their part in the corporate misdeeds is by the process of "piercing the corporate veil," which can be very difficult and usually only happens when there is a very serious offense like fraud. (and this was a case of fraud)

The corporation pled guilty. Taking the plea bargain stopped the investigation and prevented the court from piercing the corporate veil and prosecuting Scott and the other officers. So while you certainly can continue the "he wasn't charged" mantra, perhaps now you can understand why.

Carry on.

In no way does incorporation prevent one from criminal charges. Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Dennis Kozlowski......

"Piercing the corporate veil" is more related to civil liability and has nothing to do with criminal violations of law.

Piercing the corporate veil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carry on.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:11 AM
 
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Some sort of fraud? Are you a Floridian? You don't know the news or his record Rick Scott's company was fined with civil AND criminal fines of 1.7 billion by the Feds, the largest Medicare fraud case ever. HIS board of directors threw Rick Scott out of CEO position of HIS company. This information was out there years before the thought of running for any office crossed Rick Scott's mind. It was and is the hugest scam of fraud to overbill the government in US history, and continues to outrage residents of Florida who recall when the original news broke of the scandal.
Rick Scott, who ran a company involved in the nation's largest Medicare fraud case, wants to be Florida's governor - Sun Sentinel

'...Rick Scott was co-founder and CEO of Columbia/HCA in the 1990s, when the FBI launched a massive, multi-state investigation that led to the company pleading guilty to criminal charges of overbilling the government....'

Additionally, Scott took his ill-gotten gains from his golden parachute and started ANOTHER company:
Rick Scott health care company accused of overbilling Medicare « Florida Independent: News. Politics. Media

'...Two doctors— both former employees of Solantic, the chain of clinics launched by Scott and in which he is a majority investor — allege that Solantic repeatedly used their name and medical license information without their permission or knowledge. Both doctors state that by allegedly misappropriating their information, the company was able to keep clinics operating in contravention of state law....'
Get over it already! Nobody really cares what you think of Rick Scott. He has been elected the Governor of Florida for the next 4 years DESPITE the fact that all your accusations were known to the public BEFORE the election. If you really are having this much difficulty in dealing with the election of someone you dont like....then perhaps California or N.Y. would be a better fit for your beliefs. Rick Scott isnt going anywhere and your anger at the election is just "beating a dead horse".
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