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Old 01-19-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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As we all know, the Democrats lost about 53 seats in the House and about 6 in the Senate.

Do you know why? Did any of you vote for Obama in 2008 and then vote Republican in 2010?

It seemed to me that Obama and the other Democrats were elected in 2008 to do certain things, and they did them. If that was the case, why did the voters turn against them?

I know the unemployment rate is high, but when it increases from 6% to 9%, that only affects 3% of the labor force, and that doesn't seem to be enough to cause the huge Democratic defeat in 2010.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: South Side
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Why? In the words of our sainted late mayor Richard J. Daley, the Democrats lost seats in the recent election because they got fewer votes!
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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Because Obama didn't explain enough that he policies are the most awesome in all the world. And the American people are just too stupid to understand. Because they listen too much to Palin and oh yeah, it's Bush's fault....
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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As we all know, the Democrats lost about 53 seats in the House and about 6 in the Senate.

Do you know why? Did any of you vote for Obama in 2008 and then vote Republican in 2010?

It seemed to me that Obama and the other Democrats were elected in 2008 to do certain things, and they did them. If that was the case, why did the voters turn against them?

I know the unemployment rate is high, but when it increases from 6% to 9%, that only affects 3% of the labor force, and that doesn't seem to be enough to cause the huge Democratic defeat in 2010.

That extra 3% of the workforce with no jobs mulitplies throughout the whole economy. When 9% of the popul (not to mention the other 8-9%under-employed) spends less $$ on products, it normally means less sales growth to a range of industries. Every opposing party diff from the potus loses seats in the off-year elections. That is a normal occurrence. it is a fact that much less of Obama's base went out to support the Dem candidates and much more of the Rep base went out to vote (as they normally do).
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Why the Democrats lost the last election:

1. They said nasty things in public about average Americans. You want to call your politician opponents names, fine, but you start calling regular people Astroturf and Homer Simpsons just because they oppose increased taxes, out of control spending, big government intrusion and think job creation should be your top priority, you can kiss our butts in Macy's window on Election Day.

2. Their priorities were the opposite of public priorities like employment.

3. Pork. You had to have a really low opinion of the American public to think they can't recognize wasteful spending when they see it in the Spendapalooza Act.

4. Obamacare. It wasn't the message, it's the product people don't like. No one believes you when you claim you can insure all of those uninsured people and others won't feel the pain either by rationing care, making deep cuts in Medicare to pay for some of it or spending more for less. Maybe some people have also gotten the message about the huge government infrastructure (increased federal workforce) that's going to be needed to support it or that passing a huge burden onto the states (Medicaid) just means that Obama and Congress won't be perceived as the ogres when your STATE taxes are raised. Your governors will take the blame.

5. Redistribution of wealth and a sense of unfairness. You follow the rules, work hard, pay your mortgage, pay your taxes and credit card bills on time like you are supposed to and some Democrat comes along and gives other people freebies while punching you in the gut for doing the right thing and skates on not paying their own taxes on time. Socialism is still a dirty word.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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Why? In the words of our sainted late mayor Richard J. Daley, the Democrats lost seats in the recent election because they got fewer votes!
Wow you should be a political scientist.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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1. bad economy
2. lost independents
3. depressed base
4. highly energized conservative base
5. Democratic disunity
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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it is a fact that much less of Obama's base went out to support the Dem candidates and much more of the Rep base went out to vote (as they normally do).
That is what one of my Democratic friends told me.

I wonder why Obama's people did not turn out.

Maybe a lot of them were dreamers who thought he would stop the wars in Iraq and Afganistan and solve all of our domestic problems. Maybe they expected too much. I think Democrats can be like that.

For some reason, they think Democrats are against wars. They forget about Korea and Vietnam.
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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Why the Democrats lost the last election:

1. They said nasty things in public about average Americans.
I think you may have hit the nail right on the head, Laura.

Even though I don't know any people who voted for Obama in 2008 and voted Republican in 2010, I believe people like that exist.

They may have changed their voting for the exact reason you gave. The Democrats do seem to hold average Americans in contempt.
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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We lost because our politicians tried to sell the steak (describing the policies and goals in boring details to fellow policy wonks) instead of selling the sizzle (see how cool this is to the voters). The Republicans are experts at selling the sizzle and then passing out empty plates to everyone but their financial sponsers.

Some Democratic policy wonks might hold the people in contempt but they hold everyone except their fellow experts in contempt. The Republicans treat the people with contempt after they are elected.
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